Re: [Bluez-devel] [patch] spec: Update alsa namespace to include virtual device

On Thursday 23 August 2007, Marc-André Lureau wrote:

The following patch changes the "alsa" namespace so that "virtual
devices" can also be described (a former approach was to use
alsa.virtual or alsa_virtual new namespace, but alsa.virtual does not
inherit alsa property, and both namespaces have a lot in common).

Thus, a  mandatory property "is_hardware" is introduced. If this value
is true, the current mandatory keys remain mandatory. If not, then the
client should use "device_name" to "open" the device.

Arguable:
- should "device_name" be optional? (currently, application hard-code
the prefix "hw")
- "service" is used to make a difference between a2dp and hfp/hsp
- "device_name", and "service" key naming

Hi,

I don't agree with this approach, i.e. the listing of virtual ALSA devices 
through HAL, especially the forcing of the device_name. The application might 
be smarter than HAL, once it knows enough about the hardware. For example the 
hw: devices in many cases are not what you want...

Since libasound 1.0.14 we have snd_device_name_hint available to list virtual 
devices (they get listed once you add a hint section in your .asoundrc file). 
What we're missing is a way to link virtual devices to hardware, meaning if 
Hardware "xy" becomes available virtual device "foo" starts to be useful 
(only "polling" works from what I know).

So what I'd like to see is something along the lines of:
- HAL notifies me that a Bluetooth device with audio support became available.
- With the id I get from HAL I can query libasound which virtual devices are 
using this device, or if that's not possible iterate over all virtual devices 
that didn't work before and try to open them and see whether they work now.

You made the example "bluetooth:00:19:4F:DB:04:40,hifi" in the patch. Is it 
possible to always access ALSA bluetooth devices that way? Then perhaps the 
HAL entry on the bluetooth device should list give me the necessary hints to 
construct that string myself?

Anyway, great to hear that bluetooth ALSA support is progressing! I'm really 
looking forward to supporting it (now all I need is bluetooth devices...)

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