Re: [RFC PATCH 01/10] firmware: arm_scmi: Reset properly xfer SCMI status
From: Sudeep Holla <hidden>
Date: 2021-06-08 11:17:56
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On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 11:10:48AM +0100, Cristian Marussi wrote:
Hi Sudeep, On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 07:27:54PM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:quoted
On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 07:01:37PM +0100, Cristian Marussi wrote:quoted
On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 06:38:09PM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:quoted
On Sun, Jun 06, 2021 at 11:12:23PM +0100, Cristian Marussi wrote:quoted
When an SCMI command transfer fails due to some protocol issue an SCMI error code is reported inside the SCMI message payload itself and it is then retrieved and transcribed by the specific transport layer into the xfer.hdr.status field by transport specific .fetch_response(). The core SCMI transport layer never explicitly reset xfer.hdr.status, so when an xfer is reused, if a transport misbehaved in handling such status field, we risk to see an invalid ghost error code. Reset xfer.hdr.status to SCMI_SUCCESS right before each transfer is started.Any particular reason why it can't be part of xfer_get_init which has other initialisations ? If none, please move it there.Well it was there initially then I moved it here. The reason is mostly the same as the reason for the other patch in this series that adds a reinit_completion() in this same point: the core does not forbid to reuse an xfer multiple times, once obtained with xfer_get() or xfer_get_init(), and indeed some protocols do such a thing: they implements such do_xfer looping and bails out on error.Makes sense. But it is okay to retain xfer->transfer_id for every transfer in such a loop ?No you are right and indeed I saw that anomaly, but I have not addressed it since, even if wrong, it is harmless and transfer_id is really used only for debugging/profiling, while the missing reinit_completion is potentially broken.
No agreed, just wanted to make it clear that if do_xfer is used in loops the transfer_id remains same. I am fine with that.
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In the way that it is implemented now in protocols poses no problem indeed because the do_xfer loop bails out on error and the xfer is put, but as soon as some protocol is implemented that violates this common practice and it just keeps on reuse an xfer after an error fo other do_xfers() this breaks...so it seemed more defensive to just reinit the completion and the status before each send.Fair enough. But they use it to send same message I guess, may be if it gave error or something ? I would like to really know such a sequence instead of assisting that 😉.So the current real 'looping do_xfer' behavior is safe and so this missing reinit is only potentially broken in the future, and we cannot really know now in advance about some future protocol needs, but it seems as of now wrong that you'll want to keep going on and reuse an xfer for the same command after an error in your loop.
Fair enough.
On the other side we allow such behaviour, so I thought was good to provide a safe net if it is misused.
Agreed.
But, beside this patches, that, as said, are more defensive that strictly needed as of now, I think now it's worth mentioning that this same 'issue' affects also, as an example, the new mechanism I introduced later in this same series to always use monotonically increasing sequence number for outgoing messages.
OK, I haven't seen that yet.
In that case I stick to the current behavior and I assign such monotonically increasing sequence numbers to message during xfer_get, but the potential issue is the same: if a do_xfer loop is used you end up reusing the same seq_num for multiple do_xfers (so defeating really the mechanism itself that aims not to reuse immediately the most recently used seq_num).
I assumed the do_xfer loop is to avoid those overheads with compromise of reusing seq_num.
In that case I did this to keep it simple and to avoid placing more burden on tx path by picking and assigning a seq_num upon each transfer...but, again, also this behavior of picking a seq_num only at xfer_get is NOT really broken as of now even for do_xfer loops since we bail out on error and you won't really reuse that xfer.
OK.
It's just that in this seq_num selection case seems to add a lot of burden and complexity if moved to the do_xfer phase, while status/reinit seemed to me cheaper to move it in the do_xfer so I tried to play defensive.
I assumed the same as mentioned above.
At the end, in general I would say that all of these ops (status/reinit/ seq_nums/transfer_id) DO really belong logically to the do_xfer phase more than to the xfer_get/xfer_get_init, but in reality we can cope with having them @xfer_get/get_init and this keeps things simple and reduce burden, especially in the monotonic seq_nums case: so I am not so sure anymore if it is fine to move reinit/status to the do_xfer, as proposed here, while keeping seq_nums (for good reasons) to the xfer_get phase, because we'd use 2 different strategies to address similar issues.
I almost agreed with the change just to read here you think otherwise now 😄.
I would say: just keep reinit and status in the xfer_get phase instead and maybe warn somehow if a failed xfer is detected being reused. (but this would anyway need a check in every tx transaction to see if status != SUCCESS so is it worth ?)
I have started thinking why do we need to reset the status. Since it is always read from the shmem, do we really have to ? -- Regards, Sudeep _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel