Thread (104 messages) 104 messages, 13 authors, 2023-12-05

Re: [PATCH 17/21] fs: xfs: iomap atomic write support

From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Date: 2023-11-28 13:56:25
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On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 08:56:37AM +0000, John Garry wrote:
Are you suggesting some sort of hybrid between the atomic write series you 
had a few years ago and this solution?
Very roughly, yes.
To me that would be continuing with the following:
- per-IO RWF_ATOMIC (and not O_ATOMIC semantics of nothing is written until 
some data sync)
Yes.
- writes must be a power-of-two and at a naturally-aligned offset
Where offset is offset in the file?  It would not require it.  You
probably want to do it for optimal performance, but requiring it
feeels rather limited.
- relying on atomic write HW support always
And I think that's where we have different opinions.  I think the hw
offload is a nice optimization and we should use it wherever we can.
But building the entire userspace API around it feels like a mistake.
BTW, we also have rtvol support which does not use forcealign as it already 
can guarantee alignment, but still does rely on the same principle of 
requiring alignment - would you want CoW support there also?
Upstream doesn't have out of place write support for the RT subvolume
yet.  But Darrick has a series for it and we're actively working on
upstreaming it.
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