Thread (5 messages) 5 messages, 3 authors, 2018-03-30

Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] Randomization of address chosen by mmap.

From: Pavel Machek <hidden>
Date: 2018-03-30 09:57:35
Also in: linux-mips, linux-mm, linux-s390, linux-sh, linuxppc-dev, lkml, sparclinux

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On Fri 2018-03-30 12:07:58, Ilya Smith wrote:
Hi
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On 30 Mar 2018, at 10:55, Pavel Machek [off-list ref] wrote:

Hi!
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Current implementation doesn't randomize address returned by mmap.
All the entropy ends with choosing mmap_base_addr at the process
creation. After that mmap build very predictable layout of address
space. It allows to bypass ASLR in many cases. This patch make
randomization of address on any mmap call.
How will this interact with people debugging their application, and
getting different behaviours based on memory layout?

strace, strace again, get different results?
Honestly I’m confused about your question. If the only one way for debugging 
application is to use predictable mmap behaviour, then something went wrong in 
this live and we should stop using computers at all.
I'm not saying "only way". I'm saying one way, and you are breaking
that. There's advanced stuff like debuggers going "back in time".

									Pavel
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