Thread (8 messages) 8 messages, 7 authors, 2021-08-12

Re: [PATCH] CodingGuidelines: recommend gender-neutral description

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From: Felipe Contreras <hidden>
Date: 2021-07-16 21:22:37

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Derrick Stolee wrote:
On 7/15/2021 12:35 PM, Eric Sunshine wrote:
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On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 12:25 PM Junio C Hamano [off-list ref] wrote:
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diff --git a/Documentation/CodingGuidelines b/Documentation/CodingGuidelines
@@ -541,6 +541,49 @@ Writing Documentation:
+      A contributor asks their upstream to pull from them.
+
+    Note that this sounds ungrammatical and unnatural to those who
+    learned English as a second language in some parts of the world.
It also sounds ungrammatical and unnatural to this native English speaker.
A way to adapt this idea more generally would be to pull a phrase
from my commit message in v3:

  Note that this sounds ungrammatical and unnatural to readers
  who learned English in a way that dictated "they" as always plural.

Learning English as a second language is one example of how one could
find it ungrammatical. We could call it out explicitly:

  Note that this sounds ungrammatical and unnatural to readers
  who learned English in a way that dictated "they" as always plural,
  especially those who learned English as a second language.
This is loaded language. You are inserting your opinion into the text.

Don't. The guidelines are not a place to win arguments.

  Note that this sounds ungrammatical and unnatural to some people.

And it sounds ungrammatical because it *is* ungramatical, not only to
native English speakers, but professional linguists.

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Felipe Contreras
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