Re: [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Andres Freund [off-list ref] wrote:

On 2013-06-09 13:01:30 -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:

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You don't agree that 1) a collegial work environment is overrated, 2)
that the Linux kernel doesn't put an emphasis on being collegial, or
3) that it's the most successful software project in history?

Point 1.

Good, so we agree that a project doesn't need a collegial work
environment to be extremely and amazingly successful. In fact, any
rational person would keep an open mind to the fact that perhaps it
actually _helps_ to not have such environment, based on the evidence.

Just from skimming both lists, most of the time I find lkml to be nicer
(and more collegial) to read because it has a better atmosphere than
git@ had in the last year or two.

A better atmosphere, yes, because they know how to avoid flamewars,
and concentrate on technical issues, not because they have a collegial
work environment.

Unless you think this reply[1] is collegial. Even though I haven't
been following Linux mailing lists that closely lately, I still manage
to see a lot of these kinds of replies.

And yes, a good atmosphere plays an important role. One of the reasons
is that it makes it easier to discern arguments based on personality
disputes - which certainly exist on lk - from actual technical
disagreements that need to be resolved.

That's right, but that's not because everyone is collegial in LKML,
which they most certainly are not. Linus being one of many examples.

[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.usb.general/85952

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Felipe Contreras