Re: What's cooking in git.git (Apr 2013, #05; Mon, 15)

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Ramkumar Ramachandra
[off-list ref] wrote:

Since you disagreed with the rest, I'll only respond to this part:

Felipe Contreras wrote:

quoted

But I won't bother trying to convince you that no project is more
important than its users (in the words of Linus Torvalds), because
most people don't see the big picture.

I didn't say otherwise.  What I'm saying is: my personal incentive to
write code does not prioritize the supposed benefit of some unknown
"user" somewhere on the planet above everything else.  My personal
incentive prioritizes me, and my immediate circle (ie. the git
community).  The benefit propagates outwards to extended circles until
it reaches the people I care least about: incidental end-users.

If the people that matter most are given the worst prioritization, it
means the prioritization is wrong.

That's how people are connected: how can I care about distant unknown
people I'm not connected to?

It's called empathy.

The people in the outermost circles
benefit the least, because they didn't get a say in the development.
All they can do is write a rant about it on their blog, and hope that
it gets fixed someday.

To the detriment of the project.

You just ditched us, the inner circle of people who care about your
work the most, and are instead trying to convince us that we're
hurting some unknown hypothetical "users" by not merging your code
immediately.

The users are real, the developers that will look retroatcively to the
commit message of this patch are not.

If you think these users are more important to you than we are, then
why are you posting your code on this mailing list?

What other way is there for this code to reach the users?

Start your own
project that's focused on satisfying these users.

Start a new project so I can include a patch that hasn't made it yet
into the "what's cooking" in one week? That's ridiculous.

It doesn't even
need to be open source or have a community of reviewers, because all
you care about are users.

Who said *all* that matters are the users? And even if somebody did,
ultimately a closed source proprietary software doesn't benefit the
users, so either way it has to be open and active to benefit the
users.

-- 
Felipe Contreras