Thread (1 message) 1 message, 1 author, 2018-10-04

Re: [patch 00/11] x86/vdso: Cleanups, simmplifications and CLOCK_TAI support

From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Date: 2018-10-04 14:00:45

On Oct 4, 2018, at 1:11 AM, Peter Zijlstra [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 09:54:45AM +0200, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
I was hoping to hear this from you :-) If I am to suggest how we can
move forward I'd propose:
- Check if pure TSC can be used on SkyLake+ systems (where TSC scaling
is supported).
- Check if non-masterclock mode is still needed. E.g. HyperV's TSC page
clocksource is a single page for the whole VM, not a per-cpu thing. Can
we think that all the buggy hardware is already gone?
No, and it is not the hardware you have to worry about (mostly), it is
the frigging PoS firmware people put on it.

Ever since Nehalem TSC is stable (unless you get to >4 socket systems,
after which it still can be, but bets are off). But even relatively
recent systems fail the TSC sync test because firmware messes it up by
writing to either MSR_TSC or MSR_TSC_ADJUST.

But the thing is, if the TSC is not synced, you cannot use it for
timekeeping, full stop. So having a single page is fine, it either
contains a mult/shift that is valid, or it indicates TSC is messed up
and you fall back to something else.

There is no inbetween there.

For sched_clock we can still use the global page, because the rate will
still be the same for each cpu, it's just offset between CPUs and the
code compensates for that.
But if we’re in a KVM guest, then the clock will jump around on the same *vCPU* when the vCPU migrates.

But I don’t see how kvmclock helps here, since I don’t think it’s used for sched_clock.

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