Thread (40 messages) 40 messages, 6 authors, 2011-01-24

Re: Flow Control and Port Mirroring Revisited

From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Date: 2011-01-06 10:28:25
Also in: kvm, netdev

On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 06:33:12PM +0900, Simon Horman wrote:
Hi,

Back in October I reported that I noticed a problem whereby flow control
breaks down when openvswitch is configured to mirror a port[1].
Apropos the UDP flow control.  See this
http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg150806.html
for some problems it introduces.
Unfortunately UDP does not have built-in flow control.
At some level it's just conceptually broken:
it's not present in physical networks so why should
we try and emulate it in a virtual network?


Specifically, when you do:
# netperf -c -4 -t UDP_STREAM -H 172.17.60.218 -l 30 -- -m 1472
You are asking: what happens if I push data faster than it can be received?
But why is this an interesting question?
Ask 'what is the maximum rate at which I can send data with %X packet
loss' or 'what is the packet loss at rate Y Gb/s'. netperf has
-b and -w flags for this. It needs to be configured
with --enable-intervals=yes for them to work.

If you pose the questions this way the problem of pacing
the execution just goes away.
I have (finally) looked into this further and the problem appears to relate
to cloning of skbs, as Jesse Gross originally suspected.

More specifically, in do_execute_actions[2] the first n-1 times that an skb
needs to be transmitted it is cloned first and the final time the original
skb is used.

In the case that there is only one action, which is the normal case, then
the original skb will be used. But in the case of mirroring the cloning
comes into effect. And in my case the cloned skb seems to go to the (slow)
eth1 interface while the original skb goes to the (fast) dummy0 interface
that I set up to be a mirror. The result is that dummy0 "paces" the flow,
and its a cracking pace at that.

As an experiment I hacked do_execute_actions() to use the original skb
for the first action instead of the last one.  In my case the result was
that eth1 "paces" the flow, and things work reasonably nicely.

Well, sort of. Things work well for non-GSO skbs but extremely poorly for
GSO skbs where only 3 (yes 3, not 3%) end up at the remote host running
netserv. I'm unsure why, but I digress.

It seems to me that my hack illustrates the point that the flow ends up
being "paced" by one interface. However I think that what would be
desirable is that the flow is "paced" by the slowest link. Unfortunately
I'm unsure how to achieve that.
What if you have multiple UDP sockets with different targets
in the guest?
One idea that I had was to skb_get() the original skb each time it is
cloned - that is easy enough. But unfortunately it seems to me that
approach would require some sort of callback mechanism in kfree_skb() so
that the cloned skbs can kfree_skb() the original skb.

Ideas would be greatly appreciated.

[1] http://openvswitch.org/pipermail/dev_openvswitch.org/2010-October/003806.html
[2] http://openvswitch.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=openvswitch;a=blob;f=datapath/actions.c;h=5e16143ca402f7da0ee8fc18ee5eb16c3b7598e6;hb=HEAD
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