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Re: [PATCH v3] mm: fix panic in __alloc_pages

From: David Hildenbrand <hidden>
Date: 2021-12-08 08:24:48
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On 08.12.21 09:12, Michal Hocko wrote:
On Tue 07-12-21 19:03:28, David Hildenbrand wrote:
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On 07.12.21 18:17, Alexey Makhalov wrote:
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On Dec 7, 2021, at 9:13 AM, David Hildenbrand [off-list ref] wrote:

On 07.12.21 18:02, Alexey Makhalov wrote:
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On Dec 7, 2021, at 8:36 AM, Michal Hocko [off-list ref] wrote:

On Tue 07-12-21 17:27:29, Michal Hocko wrote:
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So your proposal is to drop set_node_online from the patch and add it as
a separate one which handles
	- sysfs part (i.e. do not register a node which doesn't span a
	  physical address space)
	- hotplug side of (drop the pgd allocation, register node lazily
	  when a first memblocks are registered)
In other words, the first stage
diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
index c5952749ad40..f9024ba09c53 100644
--- a/mm/page_alloc.c
+++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
@@ -6382,7 +6382,11 @@ static void __build_all_zonelists(void *data)
	if (self && !node_online(self->node_id)) {
		build_zonelists(self);
	} else {
-		for_each_online_node(nid) {
+		/*
+		 * All possible nodes have pgdat preallocated
+		 * free_area_init
+		 */
+		for_each_node(nid) {
			pg_data_t *pgdat = NODE_DATA(nid);

			build_zonelists(pgdat);
Will it blow up memory usage for the nodes which might never be onlined?
I prefer the idea of init on demand.

Even now there is an existing problem.
In my experiments, I observed _huge_ memory consumption increase by increasing number
of possible numa nodes. I’m going to report it in separate mail thread.
I already raised that PPC might be problematic in that regard. Which
architecture / setup do you have in mind that can have a lot of possible
nodes?
It is x86_64 VMware VM, not the regular one, but specially configured (1 vCPU per node,
with hot-plug support, 128 possible nodes)  
I thought the pgdat would be smaller but I just gave it a test:
Yes, pgdat is quite large! Just embeded zones can eat a lot.
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On my system, pgdata_t is 173824 bytes. So 128 nodes would correspond to
21 MiB, which is indeed a lot. I assume it's due to "struct zonelist",
which has MAX_ZONES_PER_ZONELIST == (MAX_NUMNODES * MAX_NR_ZONES) zone
references ...
This is what pahole tells me
struct pglist_data {
        struct zone                node_zones[4] __attribute__((__aligned__(64))); /*     0  5632 */
        /* --- cacheline 88 boundary (5632 bytes) --- */
        struct zonelist            node_zonelists[1];    /*  5632    80 */
	[...]
        /* size: 6400, cachelines: 100, members: 27 */
        /* sum members: 6369, holes: 5, sum holes: 31 */

with my particular config (which is !NUMA). I haven't really checked
whether there are other places which might scale with MAX_NUM_NODES or
something like that.

Anyway, is 21MB of wasted space for 128 Node machine something really
note worthy?
I think we'll soon might see setups (again, CXL is an example, but als
owhen providing a dynamic amount of performance differentiated memory
via virtio-mem) where this will most probably matter. With performance
differentiated memory we'll see a lot more nodes getting used in
general, and a lot more nodes eventually getting hotplugged.

If 128 nodes is realistic, I cannot tell.

We could optimize by allocating some members dynamically. For example
we'll never need MAX_NUMNODES entries, but only the number of possible
nodes.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb
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