Re: [RFC net-next] ipv6: update NUD_FAILED neighbors from NA messages

On Thu Aug 27, 2026 at 9:05 AM UTC, Ido Schimmel wrote:

On Tue, Aug 25, 2026 at 06:07:44PM +0000, Lawrence Lee wrote:

quoted

Sorry I should have been more specific before. Maybe a better way to 
phrase it is that this would be analogous to IPv4 in the sense that it 
allows NUD_FAILED neighbors to change states upon receipt of a NA, but 
by using NUD_STALE it remains consistent with RFC9131 Section 6.1.1.

I think that your setup is quite unique and I don't necessarily agree
with the statements regarding the CPU load, but it doesn't change my
conclusion: IMO it makes sense to transition from FAILED to STALE when
receiving NAs (most likely unsolicited given FAILED state).

Mention in the commit message that trying to resolve FAILED neighbours
by periodically probing them (e.g., using NTF_EXT_MANAGED) adds extra
work compared to having the kernel stop ignoring the information that
it's getting via NAs. Also mention that the approach taken here is more
conservative than IPv4, which by default transitions FAILED neighbours
to STALE upon receiving GARPs.

I will be sure to mention these points in the message. Is it appropriate 
to credit you with a 'Suggested-By' tag in the commit messages as well?  
I'm not sure what the proper attribution convention is here for commit 
message content.

Note that you also need to update the RFC 9131 comment in
ndisc_recv_na() and the description of accept_untracked_na in
Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.rst. In addition, please add a test
case in tools/testing/selftests/net/ndisc_unsolicited_na_test.sh

Before submitting, please read:
https://docs.kernel.org/next/process/maintainer-netdev.html

Run the CI checks locally:
https://github.com/linux-netdev/nipa#running-locally

And LLM review:
https://github.com/sashiko-dev/sashiko#1-local-review-recommended

Thanks

Will do, thanks for the suggestions. I will submit a patch once the tree 
re-opens.