Thread (17 messages) 17 messages, 5 authors, 2026-02-28

Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3 1/5] netlink: specs: Add XDP RX checksum capability to XDP metadata specs

From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Date: 2026-02-23 23:18:48
Also in: bpf, intel-wired-lan, linux-kselftest

On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 18:11:54 +0100 Lorenzo Bianconi wrote:
quoted
Off the top of my head drivers prefer reporting UNNECESSARY when they
have both, and reserve COMPLETE for cases where L4 could not be found
or is incorrect. Why don't we report both? We're using 3 args, we still
have 3 to go. We could turn ip_summed into a bitmap and have explicit
output args for both level and csum complete value?  
Ack, thx for the explanation. Just for sake of understanding, is there
any NIC capable of reporting both csum_value and csum for the same packet
in the DMA descriptor? Or is this change needed to be future-proof?
Both nfp and fbnic definitely can. Off the top of my head - mlx5 also
can, but I haven't double checked.
quoted
One more thing I'd like us to at least have a plan for at this stage
is how to deal with COMPLETE + modified packet + XDP_PASS.
Right now some drivers discard COMPLETE when XDP is attached since
they can't be sure if XDP modifies the packet. Other drivers don't
and we end up with bad csum splat. Do we have a recommendation on
the correct behavior? If not - should we have a kfunc to adjust /
discard csum complete explicitly?  
At the moment there is no way to store the csum value we got running
bpf_xdp_metadata_rx_checksum() in order to be consumed during
xdp_buff/xdp_frame to skb conversion (this info can just be consumed in the
ebpf program bound to the NIC) but
I think the scope here is much narrower than the xdp_buf to xdp_frame
to skb conversion. We are just pass information between the program and
driver which owns xdp_buff. Very similar to your new xmo.

We could either tell the driver to discard the csum complete or even
add a helper to "adjust" the the csum value. Similar to the helper
we have to adjust the csum in TC / skb context.
I guess the issue you pointed out can be solved in the verifier
during program load time. What do you think?
It could, but at the verifier level we'd probably have to be fairly
coarse-grained. Any write to the packet data would mean csum complete
cannot be trusted, that's not too hard. But also any tail call / fentry?
I'm not really up to date on the latest in program chaining in BPF but
I think a lot of real-life deployments would use either chaining or
fentry. So in practice it may be a lot of complexity for having csum
complete always disabled w/ XDP, in practice.

Up to you. I'm totally okay to just say** that drivers should never
report csum complete with XDP (until appropriate API is built).
Perhaps this will force those who care about XDP+csum_complete to
tell us what their requirements are?

[**] "just say" == document and add driver kselftest that validates it
Keyboard shortcuts
hback out one level
jnext message in thread
kprevious message in thread
ldrill in
Escclose help / fold thread tree
?toggle this help