Thread (94 messages) 94 messages, 32 authors, 2025-10-03

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Remove some entries due to various compliance requirements.

From: Mingcong Bai <jeffbai@aosc.io>
Date: 2024-10-23 10:10:28
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Possibly related (same subject, not in this thread)

Greetings again (oops),

I messed up the reference levels when I sent my disclosure. Jiaxun got 
most of the references right but the last sentence.

在 2024-10-23 17:53,Jiaxun Yang 写道:
On 2024/10/23 09:26, Mingcong Bai wrote:
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No, no, no. Nuh, uh.

Greg has unfortunately decided to respond in private over a matter 
that by no means should be glossed over. Here below is our 
conversation:
I can't believe a senior maintainer is breaking our agreed netiquette 
[1], but that's happening.
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在 2024-10-23 15:55,Greg KH 写道:
[...]
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Request declined. Your response is now public knowledge (and hey, if 
this is not by your will, my apologies). Again, this matter requires 
public response.
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在 2024-10-23 14:30,WangYuli 写道: Although this commit has been merged, 
it's still important to know the
specific reason (or even an example) that triggered this change for
everyone here, right?

And those maintainers who have been removed should be notified.
Seconded.
Sorry, but that's not how this is allowed to work.  Please contact 
your
company lawyers if you have any questions about this.  And this only
affects maintainers, as you aren't listed in the MAINTAINERS file, 
there
should not be any issue, but again, contact your company if you have 
any
questions as they know what is going on.
I think there are no regulations on earth preventing itself from being 
referenced.
Even if the regulation prevents further communication with affected 
bodies,
the wider community still deserves an explanation.

As a person with M entries I found this behavior appalling. It shakes 
mutual
trust between maintainers, as we all assumed that patches being applied 
are
well scrutinized.

Besides, many of us are working on kernel as hobbyist  in a personal 
capacity.
That means we don't have access to lawyers, especially US one. While I 
understand
corporate participants may be the majority of the community, please 
don't leave
hobbyists behind!

I've had some interactions with some of people being removed here, and 
I would
say they are all brilliant individuals. It's  really sad to see them 
being turned away :-(
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Just *wink* if you were compelled into this.
^ It sounds unprofessional to me.
For the record, I wrote that unprofessional sentence ("Just *wink*"), 
since it was private.

Best Regards,
Mingcong Bai
Thanks
- Jiaxun

[1]: https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette-qw89
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thanks,

greg k-h
Best Regards,
Mingcong Bai
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