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Re: [PATCH net v2] neighbour: add RTNL_FLAG_DUMP_SPLIT_NLM_DONE to RTM_GETNEIGH

From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Date: 2024-06-17 16:36:21

On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 10:09:07 +0200 Maciej Żenczykowski wrote:
For the other patch, I've tracked down:
  32affa5578f0 ("fib: rules: no longer hold RTNL in fib_nl_dumprule()")
which causes half the regression.

But... I haven't figured out what causes the final half (or third
depending on how you look at it).
To be completely honest I also have a fix queued for the other case,
since it was reported already a month ago. But I "forgot" to send it.
I had these tags on it:

    Reported-by: Stefano Brivio [off-list ref]
    Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240315124808.033ff58d@elisabeth (local)
    Reported-by: Ilya Maximets [off-list ref]
    Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/02b50aae-f0e9-47a4-8365-a977a85975d3@ovn.org (local)
    Fixes: 4ce5dc9316de ("inet: switch inet_dump_fib() to RCU protection")
    Fixes: 5fc68320c1fb ("ipv6: remove RTNL protection from inet6_dump_fib()")
    Signed-off-by: Jakub Kicinski [off-list ref]

LMK if you want to resend yours or I should send mine, because Ilya
pinged the old thread this morning..
I've also spent quite a while trying to figure out what exactly is
going wrong in the python netlink parsing code.
The code leaves a *lot* to be desired...

Turns out it doesn't honour the nlmsghdr.length field of NLMSG_DONE
messages, so it only reads the header (16 bytes) instead of the kernel
generated 20=16+4 NULL bytes.  I'm not sure why those extra 4 bytes
are there, but they are... (anyone know?)
They are the error code. Just like in a netlink ack. And similarly
extack attrs may follow. Main difference with ack off the top of my
head is that DONE never echos the request.
This results in a leftover 4 bytes, which then fail to parse as
another nlmsghdr (because it also effectively ignores that it's a DONE
and continues parsing).
Which explains the failure:
  TypeError: NLMsgHdr requires a bytes object of length 16, got 4

Fixing the parsing, results in things hanging, because we ignore the DONE.

Fixing that... causes more issues (or I'm still confused about how the
rest works, it's hard to follow, complicated by python's lack of types
and some apparently dead code).

Ultimately I think the right answer is to simply fix the horribly
broken netlink parser, which only ever worked by (more-or-less)
chance.  We have plenty of time (months) to fix it in time for the
next release of Android after 15/V, which will be the first one to
support a kernel newer than 6.6 LTS anyway.

Furthermore, the python netlink parser is only used in the test
framework, while the non-test code itself uses C++& java netlink
parsers (that I have not yet looked at) but is likely to either work
or contain entirely different classes of bugs ;-)
We do have: tools/net/ynl/lib/ynl.py in the tree, FWIW. 
It's BSD-licensed, feel free to lift it / some of it.
It's designed for the netlink YAML specs but the basics like 
message / attr parsing should work.
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