Hi David,

On 06/11/2023 17:57, David Wei wrote:

On 2023-11-06 03:24, Matthieu Baerts wrote:

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On 05/11/2023 19:50, David Wei wrote:

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As a beginner to netdev I found the volume of mail to be overwhelming. I only
want to focus on core netdev changes and ignore most driver changes. I found a
way to do this using lei, filtering the mailing list using lore's query
language and writing the results into an IMAP server.

I agree that the volume of mail is too high with a variety of subjects.
That's why it is very important to CC the right people (as mentioned by
Patchwork [1] ;) )

[1]
https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/patch/20231105185014.2523447-1-dw@davidwei.uk/

Sorry and noted, I've now CC'd maintainers mentioned by Patchwork.

Thanks!

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This patch is an RFC draft of updating the maintainer-netdev documentation with
this information in the hope of helping out others in the future.

Note that I'm also using lei to filter emails, e.g. to be notified when
someone sends a patch modifying this maintainer-netdev.rst file! [2]

But I don't think this issue of "busy mailing list" is specific to
netdev. It seems that "lei" is already mentioned in another part of the
doc [3]. Maybe this part can be improved? Or the netdev doc could add a
reference to the existing part?

I think "busy mailing list" is especially bad for netdev. There are many
tutorials for setting up lei, but my ideal goal is a copy + paste
command specifically for netdev that outputs into an IMAP server for
beginners to use. As opposed to writing something more generic.

I see. I don't know if many people are in this case, but having this
example will certainly help people adapting it to their case!

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(Maybe such info should be present elsewhere, e.g. on vger [4] or lore)

[2]
https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/?q=%28dfn%3ADocumentation%2Fnetworking%2Fnetdev-FAQ.rst+OR+dfn%3ADocumentation%2Fprocess%2Fmaintainer-netdev.rst%29+AND+rt%3A1.month.ago..
[3]
https://docs.kernel.org/maintainer/feature-and-driver-maintainers.html#mailing-list-participation

This document is aimed at kernel maintainers. My concern is that
beginners would not find or read this document.

Indeed.

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[4] http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html

It would be nice to add a link in the netdev list "Info" section. Do you
know how to update it?

No, sorry. Maybe Jakub or DaveM can help?

How about keeping a netdev specific sample lei query in
maintainer-netdev and refer to it from [4]?

Fine by me, but best to check with Netdev maintainers :)

(...)

It would be ideal if we could express dfn:^net/*. I contacted the public
inbox folks and they said it is not supported :(

Thank you for having asked them and Konstantin. That's a shame we cannot
use regex. Maybe later.

Cheers,
Matt