Thread (22 messages) 22 messages, 5 authors, 2023-09-06

Re: [RFC PATCH net-next 2/8] phy: introduce the PHY_MODE_ETHERNET_PHY mode for phy_set_mode_ext()

From: Sean Anderson <hidden>
Date: 2023-08-21 17:31:07
Also in: linux-devicetree, linux-phy, lkml

On 8/17/23 11:06, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
As opposed to PHY_MODE_ETHERNET which takes a phy_interface_t as is
expected to be used by an Ethernet MAC driver, PHY_MODE_ETHERNET takes
an enum ethtool_link_mode_bit_indices and expects to be used by an
Ethernet PHY driver.

It is true that the phy_interface_t type also contains definitions for
PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_10GKR and PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_1000BASEKX, but those
were deemed to be mistakes, and shouldn't be used going forward, when
10GBase-KR and 1GBase-KX are really link modes. Thus, I believe that the
distinction is necessary, rather than hacking more improper PHY modes.
10GBase-KR and 1000Base-KX are both electrically (e.g. link mode) and
functionally (e.g. phy mode) different from 10GBase-R and 1000Base-X due
to differing autonegotiation. So the phy modes are still relevant, and
should still be used to ensure the correct form of autonegotiation is
selected.

That said, I do agree that from the phy's (serdes's) point of view,
there are only electrical differences between these modes.

However, I'm not sure we need to have a separate mode here. I think this
would only be necessary if there were electrically-incompatible modes
which shared the same signalling. E.g. if 802.3 decided that they wanted
a "long range backplane ethernet" or somesuch with different
drive/equalization requirements from 1000BASE-KX et al. but with the
same signalling. Otherwise, we can infer the link mode from the phy
mode.

--Sean
quoted hunk ↗ jump to hunk
In particular to the Lynx SerDes, it can be used (as the PMA/PMD layer)
in conjunction with a separate backplane AN/LT block to form a
full-fledged copper backplane Ethernet PHY. The configuration of the
lanes is relatively similar to what is done for a typical MAC-to-PHY
link, except that we allow tuning the electrical equalization parameters
of the link (support for which will come as a separate change).

Signed-off-by: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
---
 include/linux/phy/phy.h | 1 +
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
diff --git a/include/linux/phy/phy.h b/include/linux/phy/phy.h
index 456d21c67e4f..7e10761303fc 100644
--- a/include/linux/phy/phy.h
+++ b/include/linux/phy/phy.h
@@ -39,6 +39,7 @@ enum phy_mode {
 	PHY_MODE_UFS_HS_B,
 	PHY_MODE_PCIE,
 	PHY_MODE_ETHERNET,
+	PHY_MODE_ETHERNET_PHY,
 	PHY_MODE_MIPI_DPHY,
 	PHY_MODE_SATA,
 	PHY_MODE_LVDS,
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