Thread (9 messages) 9 messages, 3 authors, 2023-09-01

Re: [PATCH net-next RFC v1 2/4] veth: use generic-XDP functions when dealing with SKBs

From: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <hidden>
Date: 2023-08-24 10:30:56

Jesper Dangaard Brouer [off-list ref] writes:
The root-cause the realloc issue is that veth_xdp_rcv_skb() code path (that
handles SKBs like generic-XDP) is calling a native-XDP function
xdp_do_redirect(), instead of simply using xdp_do_generic_redirect() that can
handle SKBs.

The existing code tries to steal the packet-data from the SKB (and frees the SKB
itself). This cause issues as SKBs can have different memory models that are
incompatible with native-XDP call xdp_do_redirect(). For this reason the checks
in veth_convert_skb_to_xdp_buff() becomes more strict. This in turn makes this a
bad approach. Simply leveraging generic-XDP helpers e.g. generic_xdp_tx() and
xdp_do_generic_redirect() as this resolves the issue given netstack can handle
these different SKB memory models.
While this does solve the memory issue, it's also a subtle change of
semantics. For one thing, generic_xdp_tx() has this comment above it:

/* When doing generic XDP we have to bypass the qdisc layer and the
 * network taps in order to match in-driver-XDP behavior. This also means
 * that XDP packets are able to starve other packets going through a qdisc,
 * and DDOS attacks will be more effective. In-driver-XDP use dedicated TX
 * queues, so they do not have this starvation issue.
 */

Also, more generally, this means that if you have a setup with
XDP_REDIRECT-based forwarding in on a host with a mix of physical and
veth devices, all the traffic originating from the veth devices will go
on different TXQs than that originating from a physical NIC. Or if a
veth device has a mix of xdp_frame-backed packets and skb-backed
packets, those will also go on different queues, potentially leading to
reordering.

I'm not sure exactly how much of an issue this is in practice, but at
least from a conceptual PoV it's a change in behaviour that I don't
think we should be making lightly. WDYT?

-Toke
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