Thread (26 messages) 26 messages, 5 authors, 2023-08-03

Re: Question about the barrier() in hlist_nulls_for_each_entry_rcu()

From: Joel Fernandes <hidden>
Date: 2023-07-21 12:54:34
Also in: lkml, rcu

On Jul 20, 2023, at 4:00 PM, Alan Huang [off-list ref] wrote:


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2023年7月21日 03:22,Eric Dumazet [off-list ref] 写道:
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On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 8:54 PM Alan Huang [off-list ref] wrote:

Hi,

I noticed a commit c87a124a5d5e(“net: force a reload of first item in hlist_nulls_for_each_entry_rcu”)
and a related discussion [1].

After reading the whole discussion, it seems like that ptr->field was cached by gcc even with the deprecated
ACCESS_ONCE(), so my question is:

      Is that a compiler bug? If so, has this bug been fixed today, ten years later?

      What about READ_ONCE(ptr->field)?
Make sure sparse is happy.
It caused a problem without barrier(), and the deprecated ACCESS_ONCE() didn’t help:

   https://lore.kernel.org/all/519D19DA.50400@yandex-team.ru/ (local)

So, my real question is: With READ_ONCE(ptr->field), are there still some unusual cases where gcc 
decides not to reload ptr->field?
I am a bit doubtful there will be strong (any?) interest in replacing the barrier() with READ_ONCE() without any tangible reason, regardless of whether a gcc issue was fixed.

But hey, if you want to float the idea…

Thanks,

 - Joel
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Do you have a patch for review ?
Possibly next month. :)
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[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/1369699930.3301.494.camel@edumazet-glaptop/ (local)

Thanks,
Alan
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