Thread (27 messages) 27 messages, 10 authors, 2023-03-14

Re: [RFC 0/6] pcmcia: separate 16-bit support from cardbus

From: Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>
Date: 2023-02-27 20:55:18
Also in: linux-arm-kernel, linux-can, linux-mips, linux-pci, linux-wireless, lkml

On 27.02.2023 21:32:40, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:
On 27.02.23 20:53, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
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On Mon, Feb 27, 2023, at 20:07, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:
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I assume these CAN bus PCMCIA interfaces won't work after your patch
set, right?
Correct, the patch series in its current form breaks this since
your laptop is cardbus compatible. The options I can see are:

- abandon my series and keep everything unchanged, possibly removing
   some of the pcmcia drivers that Dominik identified as candidates

- decide on a future timeline for when you are comfortable with
   discontinuing this setup and require any CAN users with cardbus
   laptops to move to USB or cardbus CAN adapters, apply the series
   then

- duplicate the yenta_socket driver to have two variants of that,
   require the user to choose between the cardbus and the pcmcia
   variant depending on what card is going to be used.

Can you give more background on who is using the EMS PCMCIA card?
I.e. are there reasons to use this device on modern kernels with
machines that could also support the USB, expresscard or cardbus
variants, or are you likely the only one doing this for the
purpose of maintaining the driver?
Haha, good point.

In fact the EMS PCMCIA, the PEAK PCMCIA (PCAN PC Card) and the supported
Softing PCMCIA cards are nearly 20 year old designs and they are all
discontinued for some time now. Today you can easily get a high performance
Classical CAN USB adapter with an excellent OSS firmware for ~13 EUR.

The only other laptop CAN "Cards" I'm aware of are PCIe "ExpressCard" 34/54
from PEAK System which use the PCI subsystem.

Maybe you are right and we should simply drop the support for those old
PCMCIA drivers which will still be supported for the LTS 6.1 lifetime then.

@Marc Kleine-Budde: What do you think about removing these three drivers?
I don't have any of these cards, nor any $CUSTOMER who's using it.

Marc

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