On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 08:57:23AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:

On Wed, 8 Sep 2021 18:26:35 +0300 Ilias Apalodimas wrote:

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Normally I'd say put the stats in ethtool -S and the rest in debugfs
but I'm not sure if exposing pages_state_hold_cnt and
pages_state_release_cnt directly. Those are short counters, and will
very likely wrap. They are primarily meaningful for calculating
page_pool_inflight(). Given this I think their semantics may be too
confusing for an average ethtool -S user.

Putting all the information in debugfs seems like a better idea.  

I can't really disagree on the aforementioned stats being confusing.
However at some point we'll want to add more useful page_pool stats (e.g the
percentage of the page/page fragments that are hitting the recycling path).
Would it still be 'ok' to have info split across ethtool and debugfs?

Possibly. We'll also see what Alex L comes up with for XDP stats. Maybe
we can arrive at a netlink API for standard things (broken record).

You said percentage - even tho I personally don't like it - there is a
small precedent of ethtool -S containing non-counter information (IOW
not monotonically increasing event counters), e.g. some vendors rammed
PCI link quality in there. So if all else fails ethtool -S should be
fine.

Yea percentage may have been the wrong example. I agree that having
absolute numbers (all allocated pages and recycled pages) is a better
option.  To be honest keeping the 'weird' stats in debugfs seems sane, the 
pages_state_hold_cnt/pages_state_release_cnt are only going to be needed
during debug.


Thanks
/Ilias