Thread (42 messages) 42 messages, 5 authors, 2021-08-11

Re: [RFC Patch bpf-next] bpf: introduce bpf timer

From: Song Liu <hidden>
Date: 2021-04-01 20:18:11
Also in: bpf

On Apr 1, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Cong Wang [off-list ref] wrote:

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:38 PM Song Liu [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted

quoted
On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Cong Wang [off-list ref] wrote:

From: Cong Wang <redacted>

(This patch is still in early stage and obviously incomplete. I am sending
it out to get some high-level feedbacks. Please kindly ignore any coding
details for now and focus on the design.)
Could you please explain the use case of the timer? Is it the same as
earlier proposal of BPF_MAP_TYPE_TIMEOUT_HASH?

Assuming that is the case, I guess the use case is to assign an expire
time for each element in a hash map; and periodically remove expired
element from the map.

If this is still correct, my next question is: how does this compare
against a user space timer? Will the user space timer be too slow?
Yes, as I explained in timeout hashmap patchset, doing it in user-space
would require a lot of syscalls (without batching) or copying (with batching).
I will add the explanation here, in case people miss why we need a timer.
How about we use a user space timer to trigger a BPF program (e.g. use 
BPF_PROG_TEST_RUN on a raw_tp program); then, in the BPF program, we can 
use bpf_for_each_map_elem and bpf_map_delete_elem to scan and update the 
map? With this approach, we only need one syscall per period. 

Thanks,
Song
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