Re: [RFC Patch bpf-next] bpf: introduce bpf timer
From: Song Liu <hidden>
Date: 2021-04-01 20:18:11
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On Apr 1, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Cong Wang [off-list ref] wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:38 PM Song Liu [off-list ref] wrote:quoted
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On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Cong Wang [off-list ref] wrote: From: Cong Wang <redacted> (This patch is still in early stage and obviously incomplete. I am sending it out to get some high-level feedbacks. Please kindly ignore any coding details for now and focus on the design.)Could you please explain the use case of the timer? Is it the same as earlier proposal of BPF_MAP_TYPE_TIMEOUT_HASH? Assuming that is the case, I guess the use case is to assign an expire time for each element in a hash map; and periodically remove expired element from the map. If this is still correct, my next question is: how does this compare against a user space timer? Will the user space timer be too slow?Yes, as I explained in timeout hashmap patchset, doing it in user-space would require a lot of syscalls (without batching) or copying (with batching). I will add the explanation here, in case people miss why we need a timer.
How about we use a user space timer to trigger a BPF program (e.g. use BPF_PROG_TEST_RUN on a raw_tp program); then, in the BPF program, we can use bpf_for_each_map_elem and bpf_map_delete_elem to scan and update the map? With this approach, we only need one syscall per period. Thanks, Song