Re: [RFC] tcp: Delay sending non-probes for RFC4821 mtu probing
From: Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>
Date: 2021-04-26 16:00:08
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On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:34 PM Leonard Crestez [off-list ref] wrote:
On 4/21/21 3:47 PM, Neal Cardwell wrote:quoted
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 6:21 AM Leonard Crestez [off-list ref] wrote:quoted
According to RFC4821 Section 7.4 "Protocols MAY delay sending non-probes in order to accumulate enough data" but linux almost never does that. Linux waits for probe_size + (1 + retries) * mss_cache to be available in the send buffer and if that condition is not met it will send anyway using the current MSS. The feature can be made to work by sending very large chunks of data from userspace (for example 128k) but for small writes on fast links probes almost never happen. This patch tries to implement the "MAY" by adding an extra flag "wait_data" to icsk_mtup which is set to 1 if a probe is possible but insufficient data is available. Then data is held back in tcp_write_xmit until a probe is sent, probing conditions are no longer met, or 500ms pass. Signed-off-by: Leonard Crestez <redacted> --- Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.rst | 4 ++ include/net/inet_connection_sock.h | 7 +++- include/net/netns/ipv4.h | 1 + include/net/tcp.h | 2 + net/ipv4/sysctl_net_ipv4.c | 7 ++++ net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c | 1 + net/ipv4/tcp_output.c | 54 ++++++++++++++++++++++++-- 7 files changed, 71 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) My tests are here: https://github.com/cdleonard/test-tcp-mtu-probing This patch makes the test pass quite reliably with ICMP_BLACKHOLE=1 TCP_MTU_PROBING=1 IPERF_WINDOW=256k IPERF_LEN=8k while before it only worked with much higher IPERF_LEN=256k In my loopback tests I also observed another issue when tcp_retries increases because of SACKReorder. This makes the original problem worse (since the retries amount factors in buffer requirement) and seems to be unrelated issue. Maybe when loss happens due to MTU shrinkage the sender sack logic is confused somehow? I know it's towards the end of the cycle but this is mostly just intended for discussion.Thanks for raising the question of how to trigger PMTU probes more often! AFAICT this approach would cause unacceptable performance impacts by often injecting unnecessary 500ms delays when there is no need to do so. If the goal is to increase the frequency of PMTU probes, which seems like a valid goal, I would suggest that we rethink the Linux heuristic for triggering PMTU probes in the light of the fact that the loss detection mechanism is now RACK-TLP, which provides quick recovery in a much wider variety of scenarios.quoted
After all, https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4821#section-7.4 says: In addition, the timely loss detection algorithms in most protocols have pre-conditions that SHOULD be satisfied before sending a probe. And we know that the "timely loss detection algorithms" have advanced since this RFC was written in 2007. > You mention:quoted
Linux waits for probe_size + (1 + retries) * mss_cache to be availableThe code in question seems to be: size_needed = probe_size + (tp->reordering + 1) * tp->mss_cache;As far as I understand this is meant to work with classical retransmit: if 3 dupacks are received then the first segment is considered lost and probe success or failure is can determine within roughly 1*rtt.
Yes, that is my sense as well.
RACK marks segments as lost based on echoed timestamps so it doesn't need multiple segments. The minimum time interval is only a little higher (5/4 rtt). Is this correct?
That's basically the case, though RACK doesn't even require echoed timestamps.
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How about just changing this to: size_needed = probe_size + tp->mss_cache; The rationale would be that if that amount of data is available, then the sender can send one probe and one following current-mss-size packet. If the path MTU has not increased to allow the probe of size probe_size to pass through the network, then the following current-mss-size packet will likely pass through the network, generate a SACK, and trigger a RACK fast recovery 1/4*min_rtt later, when the RACK reorder timer fires.This appears to almost work except it stalls after a while. I spend some time investigating it and it seems that cwnd is shrunk on mss increases and does not go back up. This causes probes to be skipped because of a "snd_cwnd < 11" condition. I don't undestand where that magical "11" comes from, could that be shrunk. Maybe it's meant to only send probes when the cwnd is above the default of 10? Then maybe mtu_probe_success shouldn't shrink mss below what is required for an additional probe, or at least round-up. The shrinkage of cwnd is a problem with this "short probes" approach because tcp_is_cwnd_limited returns false because tp->max_packets_out is smaller (4). With longer probes tp->max_packets_out is larger (6) so tcp_is_cwnd_limited returns true even for a cwnd of 10. I'm testing using namespace-to-namespace loopback so my delays are close to zero. I tried to introduce an artificial delay of 30ms (using tc netem) and it works but 20ms does not.
I agree the magic 11 seems outdated and unnecessarily high, given RACK-TLP. I think it would be fine to change the magic 11 to a magic (TCP_FASTRETRANS_THRESH+1), aka 3+1=4: - tp->snd_cwnd < 11 || + p->snd_cwnd < (TCP_FASTRETRANS_THRESH + 1) || As long as the cwnd is >= TCP_FASTRETRANS_THRESH+1 then the sender should usually be able to send the 1 probe packet and then 3 additional packets beyond the probe, and in the common case (with no reordering) then with failed probes this should allow the sender to quickly receive 3 SACKed segments and enter fast recovery quickly. Even if the sender doesn't have 3 additional packets, or if reordering has been detected, then RACK-TLP should be able to start recovery quickly (5/4*RTT if there is at least one SACK, or 2*RTT for a TLP if there is no SACK).
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A secondary rationale for this heuristic would be: if the flow never accumulates roughly two packets worth of data, then does the flow really need a bigger packet size?The problem is that "accumulating sufficient data" is an extremely fuzzy concept. In particular it seems that at the same traffic level performing shorter writes from userspace (2kb instead of 64k) can prevent mtu probing entirely and this is unreasonable.
Something like your autocorking-enhanced-PMTU patch sounds like a reasonable way to deal with this. thanks, neal