Re: [PATCH bpf-next v13 4/7] landlock: Add ptrace LSM hooks
From: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
Date: 2019-11-08 14:35:07
Also in:
bpf, linux-api, linux-security-module, lkml
On 11/8/19 3:08 PM, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
On 06/11/2019 22:45, KP Singh wrote:quoted
On 06-Nov 17:55, Mickaël Salaün wrote:quoted
On 06/11/2019 11:06, KP Singh wrote:quoted
On 05-Nov 11:34, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:quoted
On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 07:01:41PM +0100, Mickaël Salaün wrote:quoted
On 05/11/2019 18:18, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
[...]
quoted
* Use a single BPF program type; this is necessary for a key requirement of KRSI, i.e. runtime instrumentation. The upcoming prototype should illustrate how this works for KRSI - note that it’s possible to vary the context types exposed by different hooks.Why a single BPF program type? Do you mean *attach* types? Landlock only use one program type, but will use multiple attach types. Why do you think it is necessary for KRSI or for runtime instrumentation? If it is justified, it could be a dedicated program attach type (e.g. BPF_LANDLOCK_INTROSPECTION). What is the advantage to have the possibility to vary the context types over dedicated *typed* contexts? I don't see any advantages, but at least one main drawback: to require runtime checks (when helpers use this generic context) instead of load time checks (thanks to static type checking of the context).
Lets take security_sock_rcv_skb(struct sock *sk, struct sk_buff *skb) as one specific example here: the running kernel has its own internal btf_vmlinux and therefore a complete description of itself. From verifier side we can retrieve & introspect the security_sock_rcv_skb signatue and thus know that the given BPF attachment point has struct sock and struct sk_buff as input arguments which can then be accessed generically by the prog in order to allow sk_filter_trim_cap() to pass or to drop the skb. The same generic approach can be done for many of the other lsm hooks, so single program type would be enough there and context is derived automatically, no dedicated extra context per attach type would be needed and no runtime checks as you mentioned above since its still all asserted at verification time. Thanks, Daniel