Re: [PATCH V2 7/9] vhost: do not use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker
From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Date: 2019-08-02 09:40:18
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On 2019/8/1 下午10:15, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 01:02:18PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:quoted
On 2019/8/1 上午3:30, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:quoted
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 09:28:20PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:quoted
On 2019/7/31 下午8:39, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:quoted
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 04:46:53AM -0400, Jason Wang wrote:quoted
We used to use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker. This leads calling synchronize_rcu() in invalidate_range_start(). But on a busy system, there would be many factors that may slow down the synchronize_rcu() which makes it unsuitable to be called in MMU notifier. A solution is SRCU but its overhead is obvious with the expensive full memory barrier. Another choice is to use seqlock, but it doesn't provide a synchronization method between readers and writers. The last choice is to use vq mutex, but it need to deal with the worst case that MMU notifier must be blocked and wait for the finish of swap in. So this patch switches use a counter to track whether or not the map was used. The counter was increased when vq try to start or finish uses the map. This means, when it was even, we're sure there's no readers and MMU notifier is synchronized. When it was odd, it means there's a reader we need to wait it to be even again then we are synchronized.You just described a seqlock.Kind of, see my explanation below.quoted
We've been talking about providing this as some core service from mmu notifiers because nearly every use of this API needs it.That would be very helpful.quoted
IMHO this gets the whole thing backwards, the common pattern is to protect the 'shadow pte' data with a seqlock (usually open coded), such that the mmu notififer side has the write side of that lock and the read side is consumed by the thread accessing or updating the SPTE.Yes, I've considered something like that. But the problem is, mmu notifier (writer) need to wait for the vhost worker to finish the read before it can do things like setting dirty pages and unmapping page. It looks to me seqlock doesn't provide things like this.The seqlock is usually used to prevent a 2nd thread from accessing the VA while it is being changed by the mm. ie you use something seqlocky instead of the ugly mmu_notifier_unregister/register cycle.Yes, so we have two mappings: [1] vring address to VA [2] VA to PA And have several readers and writers 1) set_vring_num_addr(): writer of both [1] and [2] 2) MMU notifier: reader of [1] writer of [2] 3) GUP: reader of [1] writer of [2] 4) memory accessors: reader of [1] and [2] Fortunately, 1) 3) and 4) have already synchronized through vq->mutex. We only need to deal with synchronization between 2) and each of the reset: Sync between 1) and 2): For mapping [1], I do mmu_notifier_unregister/register. This help to avoid holding any lock to do overlap check.I suspect you could have done this with a RCU technique instead of register/unregister.
Probably. But the issue to be addressed by this patch is the synchronization between MMU notifier and vhost worker.
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Sync between 2) and 4): For mapping [1], both are readers, no need any synchronization. For mapping [2], synchronize through RCU (or something simliar to seqlock).You can't really use a seqlock, seqlocks are collision-retry locks, and the semantic here is that invalidate_range_start *MUST* not continue until thread doing #4 above is guarenteed no longer touching the memory.
Yes, that's the tricky part. For hardware like CPU, kicking through IPI is sufficient for synchronization. But for vhost kthread, it requires a low overhead synchronization.
This must be a proper barrier, like a spinlock, mutex, or synchronize_rcu.
I start with synchronize_rcu() but both you and Michael raise some concern. Then I try spinlock and mutex: 1) spinlock: add lots of overhead on datapath, this leads 0 performance improvement. 2) SRCU: full memory barrier requires on srcu_read_lock(), which still leads little performance improvement 3) mutex: a possible issue is need to wait for the page to be swapped in (is this unacceptable ?), another issue is that we need hold vq lock during range overlap check. 4) using vhost_flush_work() instead of synchronize_rcu(): still need to wait for swap. But can do overlap checking without the lock
And, again, you can't re-invent a spinlock with open coding and get something better.
So the question is if waiting for swap is considered to be unsuitable for MMU notifiers. If not, it would simplify codes. If not, we still need to figure out a possible solution. Btw, I come up another idea, that is to disable preemption when vhost thread need to access the memory. Then register preempt notifier and if vhost thread is preempted, we're sure no one will access the memory and can do the cleanup. Thanks
Jason