Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next 1/4] bpf: unprivileged BPF access via /dev/bpf
From: Song Liu <hidden>
Date: 2019-07-03 01:17:54
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On Jul 3, 2019, at 5:32 AM, Andy Lutomirski [off-list ref] wrote: On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 2:04 PM Kees Cook [off-list ref] wrote:quoted
On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 06:59:13PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:quoted
I think I'm understanding your motivation. You're not trying to make bpf() generically usable without privilege -- you're trying to create a way to allow certain users to access dangerous bpf functionality within some limits. That's a perfectly fine goal, but I think you're reinventing the wheel, and the wheel you're reinventing is quite complicated and already exists. I think you should teach bpftool to be secure when installed setuid root or with fscaps enabled and put your policy in bpftool. If you want to harden this a little bit, it would seem entirely reasonable to add a new CAP_BPF_ADMIN and change some, but not all, of the capable() checks to check CAP_BPF_ADMIN instead of the capabilities that they currently check.If finer grained controls are wanted, it does seem like the /dev/bpf path makes the most sense. open, request abilities, use fd. The open can be mediated by DAC and LSM. The request can be mediated by LSM. This provides a way to add policy at the LSM level and at the tool level. (i.e. For tool-level controls: leave LSM wide open, make /dev/bpf owned by "bpfadmin" and bpftool becomes setuid "bpfadmin". For fine-grained controls, leave /dev/bpf wide open and add policy to SELinux, etc.) With only a new CAP, you don't get the fine-grained controls. (The "request abilities" part is the key there.)Sure you do: the effective set. It has somewhat bizarre defaults, but I don't think that's a real problem. Also, this wouldn't be like CAP_DAC_READ_SEARCH -- you can't accidentally use your BPF caps. I think that a /dev capability-like object isn't totally nuts, but I think we should do it well, and this patch doesn't really achieve that. But I don't think bpf wants fine-grained controls like this at all -- as I pointed upthread, a fine-grained solution really wants different treatment for the different capable() checks, and a bunch of them won't resemble capabilities or /dev/bpf at all.
Thanks everyone again for great inputs. We will discuss this again and respin the set. Best, Song