Thread (26 messages) 26 messages, 5 authors, 2019-02-13

Re: [PATCH net] sctp: make sctp_setsockopt_events() less strict about the option length

From: Julien Gomes <hidden>
Date: 2019-02-06 21:53:48
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On 2/6/19 1:48 PM, Julien Gomes wrote:

On 2/6/19 1:39 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
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On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 01:26:55PM -0800, Julien Gomes wrote:
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On 2/6/19 1:07 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
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On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 12:48:38PM -0800, Julien Gomes wrote:
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On 2/6/19 12:37 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
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On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 12:14:30PM -0800, Julien Gomes wrote:
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Make sctp_setsockopt_events() able to accept sctp_event_subscribe
structures longer than the current definitions.

This should prevent unjustified setsockopt() failures due to struct
sctp_event_subscribe extensions (as in 4.11 and 4.12) when using
binaries that should be compatible, but were built with later kernel
uapi headers.
Not sure if we support backwards compatibility like this?

My issue with this change is that by doing this, application will have
no clue if the new bits were ignored or not and it may think that an
event is enabled while it is not.

A workaround would be to do a getsockopt and check the size that was
returned. But then, it might as well use the right struct here in the
first place.

I'm seeing current implementation as an implicitly versioned argument:
it will always accept setsockopt calls with an old struct (v4.11 or
v4.12), but if the user tries to use v3 on a v1-only system, it will
be rejected. Pretty much like using a newer setsockopt on an old
system.
With the current implementation, given sources that say are supposed to
run on a 4.9 kernel (no use of any newer field added in 4.11 or 4.12),
we can't rebuild the exact same sources on a 4.19 kernel and still run
them on 4.9 without messing with structures re-definition.
Maybe what we want(ed) here then is explicit versioning, to have the 3
definitions available. Then the application is able to use, say struct
sctp_event_subscribe, and be happy with it, while there is struct
sctp_event_subscribe_v2 and struct sctp_event_subscribe_v3 there too.

But it's too late for that now because that would break applications
already using the new fields in sctp_event_subscribe.
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I understand your point, but this still looks like a sort of uapi
breakage to me.
Not disagreeing. I really just don't know how supported that is.
Willing to know so I can pay more attention to this on future changes.

Btw, is this the only occurrence?
Can't really say, this is one I witnessed, I haven't really looked for
others.
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I also had another way to work-around this in mind, by copying optlen
bytes and checking that any additional field (not included in the
"current" kernel structure definition) is not set, returning EINVAL in
such case to keep a similar to current behavior.
The issue with this is that I didn't find a suitable (ie not totally
arbitrary such as "twice the existing structure size") upper limit to
optlen.
Seems interesting. Why would it need that upper limit to optlen?

Say struct v1 had 4 bytes, v3 now had 12. The user supplies 12 bytes
to the kernel that only knows about 4 bytes. It can check that (12-4)
bytes in the end, make sure no bit is on and use only the first 4.

The fact that it was 12 or 200 shouldn't matter, should it? As long as
the (200-4) bytes are 0'ed, only the first 4 will be used and it
should be ok, otherwise EINVAL. No need to know how big the current
current actually is because it wouldn't be validating that here: just
that it can safely use the first 4 bytes.
The upper limit concern is more regarding the call to copy_from_user
with an unrestricted/unchecked value.
Copy_from_user should be safe to copy an arbitrary amount, the only restriction
is that optlen can't exceed the size of the buffer receiving the data in the
kernel.  From that standpoint your patch is safe.  However,  that exposes the
problem of checking any tail data on the userspace buffer.  That is to say, if
you want to ensure that any extra data that gets sent from userspace isn't
'set', you would have to copy that extra data in consumable chunks and check
them individaully, and that screams DOS to me (i.e. imagine a user passing in a
4GB buffer, and having to wait for the kernel to copy each X sized chunk,
looking for non-zero values).
There probably is a decent compromise to find between "not accepting a
single additional byte" and accepting several GB.
For example how likely is it that the growth of this structure make it
go over a page? I would hope not at all.

By choosing a large but decent high limit, I think we can find a
future-compatible compromise that doesn't rely on a preliminary
getsockopt() just for structure trucation decision...
And I was just reminded about huge pages.
But still, my point of finding a compromise still stands.
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I am not sure of how much of a risk/how exploitable this could be,
that's why I cautiously wanted to limit it in the first place just in case.
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Signed-off-by: Julien Gomes <redacted>
---
 net/sctp/socket.c | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/net/sctp/socket.c b/net/sctp/socket.c
index 9644bdc8e85c..f9717e2789da 100644
--- a/net/sctp/socket.c
+++ b/net/sctp/socket.c
@@ -2311,7 +2311,7 @@ static int sctp_setsockopt_events(struct sock *sk, char __user *optval,
 	int i;
 
 	if (optlen > sizeof(struct sctp_event_subscribe))
-		return -EINVAL;
+		optlen = sizeof(struct sctp_event_subscribe);
 
 	if (copy_from_user(&subscribe, optval, optlen))
 		return -EFAULT;
-- 
2.20.1
-- 
Julien Gomes
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