Thread (47 messages) 47 messages, 12 authors, 2018-07-17

Re: dvb usb issues since kernel 4.9

From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hidden>
Date: 2018-01-09 21:26:24
Also in: linux-media, linux-usb, lkml

On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 15:42:35 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab [off-list ref] wrote:
Em Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:51:04 -0800 Linus Torvalds [off-list ref] escreveu:
[...]
Patch makes sense to me, although I was not able to test it myself.
 
The patch also make sense to me.  I've done some basic testing with it
on my high-end Broadwell system (that I use for 100Gbit/s testing). As
expected the network overload case still works, as NET_RX_SOFTIRQ is
not matched. 
I set a RPi3 machine here with vanilla Kernel 4.14.11 running a
standard raspbian distribution (with elevator=deadline).
I found a Raspberry Pi Model B+ (I think, BCM2835), that I loaded the
LibreELEC distro on.  One of the guys even created an image for me with
a specific kernel[1] (that I just upgraded the system with).

[1] https://forum.libreelec.tv/thread/4235-dvb-issue-since-le-switched-to-kernel-4-9-x/?postID=77031#post77031
 
My plan is to do more tests along this week, and try to tweak a little
bit both userspace and kernelspace, in order to see if I can get
better results.
 
I've previously experienced that you can be affected by the scheduler
granularity, which is adjustable (with CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG=y):

 $ grep -H . /proc/sys/kernel/sched_*_granularity_ns
 /proc/sys/kernel/sched_min_granularity_ns:2250000
 /proc/sys/kernel/sched_wakeup_granularity_ns:3000000

The above numbers were confirmed on the RPi2 (see[2]). With commit
4cd13c21b207 ("softirq: Let ksoftirqd do its job"), I expect/assume that
softirq processing latency is bounded by the sched_wakeup_granularity_ns,
which with 3 ms is not good enough for their use-case.

Thus, if you manage to reproduce the case, try to see if adjusting this
can mitigate the issue...


Their system have non-preempt kernel, should they use PREEMPT?

 LibreELEC:~ # uname -a
 Linux LibreELEC 4.14.10 #1 SMP Tue Jan 9 17:35:03 GMT 2018 armv7l GNU/Linux

[2] https://forum.libreelec.tv/thread/4235-dvb-issue-since-le-switched-to-kernel-4-9-x/?postID=76999#post76999
-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer
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