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Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 1/6] sock: MSG_PEEK support for sk_error_queue

From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Date: 2018-01-18 22:55:27

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Sowmini Varadhan
[off-list ref] wrote:
On (01/18/18 08:53), Eric Dumazet wrote:
quoted
The thing is : MSG_PEEK 'support' will also need SO_PEEK_OFF support.
sure, I'll drop the MSG_PEEK idea (which I wasnt very thrilled
about anyway)
quoted
So lets properly design things, and not re-use legacy stuff that is
proven to be not multi-thread ready and too complex.

If you want to design a new channel of communication, do it, and
maintain it.
My instinct is to go with the fixed size ancillary data- which itself
allows 2 options:

1. cmsg_data has a sock_extended_err preamble
   with ee_origin = SO_EE_ORIGIN_ZEROCOPY_COOKIE (or similar),
   and the ee_data is an array of 32 bit cookies (can pack at most 8
   32-bit cookies, if we want to pack this into an skb->cb)

   Using the sock_extended_err as preamble will allow this to be usable by
   existing tcp zcopy applications (they can use the ee_origin to find
   out if this a batch of cookies or the existing hi/lo values).

2. If we have the option of passing completion-notification up as ancillary
   data on the pollin/recvmsg channel itself (instead of MSG_ERRQUEUE)
This assumes a somewhat symmetric workload, where there are enough recv
calls to reap the notification associated with the send calls.
   we dont have to try to retain "backward compat" to the
   SO_EE_ORIGIN_ZEROCOPY API: we can just use a completely new data
   struct for the notification and potentially pack more cookies into
   48 bytes (RDS could be the first guinea pig for this- doesnt even
   have to be done across all protocol families on day-1).

I think the shmem channel suggestion would be an optional optimization
that can be added later- it may not even be necessary, since most
applications will likely be sending *and* receiving data, so passing up
cookies with recvmsg should be "good enough" to save syscall overhead
for the common case.

I can work #2, if there are no objections to it.
I would stay with MSG_ERRQUEUE processing. One option is to pass data
up to userspace in the data portion of the notification skb instead of
encoding it in ancillary data, like tcp_get_timestamping_opt_stats.
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