Re: XDP question: best API for returning/setting egress port?
From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hidden>
Date: 2017-04-19 15:24:32
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:33:27 +0200 Daniel Borkmann [off-list ref] wrote:
On 04/19/2017 02:00 PM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:quoted
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 13:54:45 -0700 John Fastabend [off-list ref] wrote:quoted
On 17-04-18 12:58 PM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:quoted
As I argued in NetConf presentation[1] (from slide #9) we need a port mapping table (instead of using ifindex'es). Both for supporting other "port" types than net_devices (think sockets), and for sandboxing what XDP can bypass. I want to create a new XDP action called XDP_REDIRECT, that instruct XDP to send the xdp_buff to another "port" (get translated into a net_device, or something else depending on internal port type). Looking at the userspace/eBPF interface, I'm wondering what is the best API for "returning" this port number from eBPF? The options I see is: 1) Split-up the u32 action code, and e.g let the high-16-bit be the port number and lower-16bit the (existing) action verdict. Pros: Simple API Cons: Number of ports limited to 64K 2) Extend both xdp_buff + xdp_md to contain a (u32) port number, allow eBPF to update xdp_md->port. Pros: Larger number of ports. Cons: This require some ebpf translation steps between xdp_buff <-> xdp_md. (see xdp_convert_ctx_access) 3) Extend only xdp_buff and create bpf_helper that set port in xdp_buff. Pros: Hides impl details, and allows helper to give eBPF code feedback (on e.g. if port doesn't exist any longer) Cons: Helper function call likely slower?How about doing this the same way redirect is done in the tc case? I have this patch under test, https://github.com/jrfastab/linux/commit/e78f5425d5e3c305b4170ddd85c61c2e15359feeI have been looking at this approach, which is close to option #3 above. The problem with your implementation that you use a per-cpu store. This creates the problem of storing state between packets. First packet can call helper bpf_xdp_redirect() setting an ifindex, but program can still return XDP_PASS. Next packet can call XDP_REDIRECT and use the ifindex set from the first packet. IMHO this is a problematic API to expose. I do see that the TC interface that uses the same approach, via helper bpf_redirect(). Maybe it have the same API problem? Looking at sch_handle_ingress() I don't see this is handled (e.g. by always clearing this_cpu_ptr(redirect_info)->ifindex = 0).It's cleared in {skb,xdp}_do_redirect() right after fetching the ifindex. I think this approach is just fine. The example described above is a misuse of the API by a buggy program calling bpf_xdp_redirect() and returning XDP_PASS while another time it returns XDP_REDIRECT without the bpf_xdp_redirect() helper, sounds very exotic, but it's as buggy as, say, a program doing the csum update wrong, a program writing the wrong data to the packet, doing adjust head on the wrong header offset, jumping into the wrong tail call entry and other things.
For TC I guess it is fine to keep it as is, because it is needed to avoid extending skb. IHMO for XDP I see no reason to keep a per-cpu-store (which besides will be slower), simply update xdp_buff.port should be sufficient (which is only relevant for this packet). As noted in option#3, my concern is that calling a helper function call will be slower, than simply returning the needed port info? Maybe some bpf experts can tell me if such helper call could be optimized out with some bpf magic?
I think encoding this into an action code is rather limiting, f.e. where would we place a flags argument if needed in future? Would that mean, we need a XDP_REDIRECT2 return code that also allows for encoding flags?
Nope, it will be extensible.
We can start with:
struct xdp_ret {
union {
__u32 act;
struct {
__u16 action;
__u16 port;
};
};
And later change it to:
struct xdp_ret {
union {
__u32 act;
struct {
__u8 action;
__u8 flags;
__u16 port;
};
};
If actions does not go above 255. I would prefer that we start with
the latter, else people would argue that we need to extend the
structure like:
struct xdp_ret {
union {
__u32 act;
struct {
union {
__u16 action;
struct {
__u8 action2;
__u8 flags;
};
};
__u16 port;
};
};
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Best regards,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer
MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer