Thread (36 messages) 36 messages, 5 authors, 2016-01-13

Re: Q: bad routing table cache entries

From: Stas Sergeev <hidden>
Date: 2016-01-12 16:42:47

12.01.2016 19:10, Hannes Frederic Sowa пишет:
On 12.01.2016 17:03, Stas Sergeev wrote:
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12.01.2016 18:52, Hannes Frederic Sowa пишет:
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On 12.01.2016 16:34, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
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On 29.12.2015 11:54, Stas Sergeev wrote:
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Hello.

I was hitting a strange problem when some internet hosts
suddenly stops responding until I reboot. ping to these
host gives "Destination Host Unreachable". After the
initial confusion, I've finally got to
ip route get
and got something quite strange.


Example for GOOD address (the one that I can ping):

ip route get 91.189.89.237
91.189.89.237 via 192.168.8.1 dev eth0  src 192.168.10.202
      cache


Example for BAD address (the one that stopped responding):

ip route get 91.189.89.238
91.189.89.238 via 192.168.0.1 dev eth0  src 192.168.10.202
      cache <redirected>
I tried to understand this thread and now wonder why this redirect route
isn't there always. Can you please summarize again why this shouldn't
happen? It looks totally fine to me from the configuration of your
router and the subnet masks.
Just an addendum:

In IPv6 a redirect is seen as a notification telling hosts, this new address is on the same link as you. I think this semantic is the same for IPv4, so we are informing you that in essence you are
getting a /32 route installed to your new interface and can do link layer resolving of the new host.

I do think this is valid and fine.
You can't call "valid and fine" something that doesn't
work, at first place. Why and where does it fail, was the
subject of this thread.
In terms of the shared media specification <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1620> it is valid and fine.
Good luck sending users to RFC without giving any explanations. :)
Well, yes, an interesting reading, but:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1812
---
   Routers MUST NOT generate a Redirect Message unless all the following
   conditions are met:

   o The packet is being forwarded out the same physical interface that
      it was received from,

   o The IP source address in the packet is on the same Logical IP
      (sub)network as the next-hop IP address, and

   o The packet does not contain an IP source route option.

   The source address used in the ICMP Redirect MUST belong to the same
   logical (sub)net as the destination address.
---

Could you please explain why the above does not apply?
You can also disable shared_media on the client and it won't accept such redirects anymore.
Only "such" redirects, or any redirects?

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If you think router did the right thing, then please explain
the breakage from that point of view.
Hope it makes sense.
No, because it still doesn't work for me.
What should I do to get such redirects to work?
What should I do to at least list them?
Even if this is with accordance to some RFC (which it seems not, though),
this doesn't help me a tiny bit, unless it also works. :)
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