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Re: [PATCH net-next 3/4] bpf: add support for persistent maps/progs

From: Eric W. Biederman <hidden>
Date: 2015-10-22 19:43:55
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Daniel Borkmann [off-list ref] writes:
On 10/20/2015 08:56 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
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Just FYI:  Using a device for this kind of interface is pretty
much a non-starter as that quickly gets you into situations where
things do not work in containers.  If someone gets a version of device
namespaces past GregKH it might be up for discussion to use character
devices.
Okay, you are referring to this discussion here:

  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.containers/26760
That is a piece of it.  It is an old old discussion (which generally has
been handled poorly).  For the forseeable future device namespaces have
a firm NACK by GregKH.  Which means that dynamic character device based
interfaces do not work in containers.  Which means if you are not
talking about physical hardware, character devices are a poor fit.

Making a character based interface for eBPF not workable.

Eric

p.s.  There are plenty of reasons (even if privilege remains a
      requirement) to ask how can this functionality be used in a
      container.  If for no other reason than sandboxing privileged
      applications is typically a good idea.
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