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Re: [PATCH tip 0/9] tracing: attach eBPF programs to tracepoints/syscalls/kprobe

From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Date: 2015-01-22 01:05:30
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Hi Alexei,

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:57:15AM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Steven Rostedt [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
One last thing. If the ebpf is used for anything but filtering, it
should go into the trigger file. The filtering is only a way to say if
the event should be recorded or not. But the trigger could do something
else (a printk, a stacktrace, etc).
it does way more than just filtering, but
invoking program as a trigger is too slow.
When program is called as soon as tracepoint fires,
it can fetch other fields, evaluate them, printk some of them,
optionally dump stack, aggregate into maps.
We can let it call triggers too, so that user program will
be able to enable/disable other events.
I'm not against invoking programs as a trigger, but I don't
see a use case for it. It's just too slow for production
analytics that needs to act on huge number of events
per second.
AFAIK a trigger can be fired before allocating a ring buffer if it
doesn't use the event record (i.e. has filter) or ->post_trigger bit
set (stacktrace).  Please see ftrace_trigger_soft_disabled().

This also makes it keeping events in the soft-disabled state.

Thanks,
Namhyung

We must minimize the overhead between tracepoint
firing and program executing, so that programs can
be used on events like packet receive which will be
in millions per second. Every nsec counts.
For example:
- raw dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null
  does 760 MB/s (on my debug kernel)
- echo 1 > events/syscalls/sys_enter_write/enable
  drops it to 400 MB/s
- echo "echo "count == 123 " > events/syscalls/sys_enter_write/filter
  drops it even further down to 388 MB/s
This slowdown is too high for this to be used on a live system.
- tracex4 that computes histogram of sys_write sizes
  and stores log2(count) into a map does 580 MB/s
  This is still not great, but this slowdown is now usable
  and we can work further on minimizing the overhead.
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