Thread (6 messages) 6 messages, 4 authors, 2014-11-03

Re: DMA allocations from CMA and fatal_signal_pending check

From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Date: 2014-11-03 18:52:08
Also in: linux-arm-kernel, linux-mm, lkml

On 11/03/2014 08:45 AM, Michal Nazarewicz wrote:
On Fri, Oct 31 2014, Florian Fainelli wrote:
quoted
I agree that the CMA allocation should not be allowed to succeed, but
the dma_alloc_coherent() allocation should succeed. If we look at the
sysport driver, there are kmalloc() calls to initialize private
structures, those will succeed (except under high memory pressure), so
by the same token, a driver expects DMA allocations to succeed (unless
we are under high memory pressure)

What are we trying to solve exactly with the fatal_signal_pending()
check here? Are we just optimizing for the case where a process has
allocated from a CMA region to allow this region to be returned to the
pool of free pages when it gets killed? Could there be another mechanism
used to reclaim those pages if we know the process is getting killed
anyway?
We're guarding against situations where process may hang around
arbitrarily long time after receiving SIGKILL.  If user does “kill -9
$pid” the usual expectation is that the $pid process will die within
seconds and anything longer is perceived by user as a bug.

What problem are *you* trying to solve?  If user sent SIGKILL to
a process that imitated device initialisation, what is the point of
continuing initialising the device?  Just recover and return -EINTR.
I have two problems with the current approach:

- behavior of a dma_alloc_coherent() call is not consistent between a
CONFIG_CMA=y vs. CONFIG_CMA=n build, which is probably fine as long as
we document that properly

- there is currently no way for a caller of dma_alloc_coherent to tell
whether the allocation failed because it was interrupted by a signal, a
genuine OOM or something else, this is largely made worse by problem 1
quoted
Well, not really. This driver is not an isolated case, there are tons of
other networking drivers that do exactly the same thing, and we do
expect these dma_alloc_* calls to succeed.
Again, why do you expect them to succeed?  The code must handle failures
correctly anyway so why do you wish to ignore fatal signal?
I guess expecting them to succeed is probably not good, but at we should
at least be able to report an accurate error code to the caller and down
to user-space.

Thanks
--
Florian

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