Thread (37 messages) 37 messages, 7 authors, 2014-06-27

Re: [PATCH/RFC] Re: recvmmsg() timeout behavior strangeness [RESEND]

From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) <hidden>
Date: 2014-06-16 09:59:15
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Hi Arnaldo,

Things have gone quiet ;-). What's the current state of this patch?

Thanks,

Michael


On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
[off-list ref] wrote:
Em Thu, May 29, 2014 at 02:06:04PM +0000, David Laight escreveu:
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From: 'Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo'
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I remember some discussions from an XNET standards meeting (I've forgotten
exactly which errors on which calls were being discussed).
My recollection is that you return success with a partial transfer
count for ANY error that happens after some data has been transferred.
The actual error will be returned when it happens again on the next
system call - Note the AGAIN, not a saved error.
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A saved error, for the right entity, in the recvmmsg case, that
basically is batching multiple recvmsg syscalls, doesn't sound like a
problem, i.e. the idea is to, as much as possible, mimic what multiple
recvmsg calls would do, but reduce its in/out kernel (and inside kernel
subsystems) overhead.
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Perhaps we can have something in between, i.e. for things like EFAULT,
we should report straight away, effectively dropping whatever datagrams
successfully received in the current batch, do you agree?
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Not unreasonable - EFAULT shouldn't happen unless the application
is buggy.
Ok.
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For transient errors the existing mechanism, fixed so that only per
socket errors are saved for later, as today, could be kept?
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I don't think it is ever necessary to save an errno value for the
next system call at all.
Just process the next system call and see what happens.
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If the call returns with less than the maximum number of datagrams
and with a non-zero timeout left - then the application can infer
that it was terminated by an abnormal event of some kind.
This might be a signal.
Then it could use getsockopt(SO_ERROR) perhaps? I.e. we don't return the
error on the next call, but we provide a way for the app to retrieve the
reason for the smaller than expected batch?
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I'm not sure if an icmp error on a connected datagram socket could
generate a 'disconnect'. It might happen if the interface is being
used for something like SCTP.
In either case the next call will detect the error.
- Arnaldo


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