Thread (15 messages) 15 messages, 4 authors, 2013-08-01

Re: [PATCH 0/8] include/net: next set of extern removals

From: Eric Dumazet <hidden>
Date: 2013-08-01 16:44:51
Also in: linux-hams, linux-wireless, lkml

On Thu, 2013-08-01 at 09:29 -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
On Thu, 2013-08-01 at 13:04 +0100, David Howells wrote:
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Joe Perches [off-list ref] wrote:
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Standardize on no extern use on function prototypes
Can we please standardise on _having_ externs on function prototypes?
Why?

What value is there in using extern for function prototypes?

Your argument for "picking out at a glance"
https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/8/1/237
really doesn't make sense to me.

Basically, anything with parentheses that's not a #define
is an extern.

Exceptions exist for extern function pointers, but those
are fairly unusual anyway.  Outside of netfilter,
extern function pointers are only used about a dozen times
total in the kernel tree.

So, please provide some examples supporting your view.
My main concern about these changes is they are a huge pain for us
doing bug tracking, rebases and backports. "git blame" and friends will
show lot of noise.

'extern' in include files are an easy way to have a grep friendly
marker, and otherwise are harmless.

_You_ believe they are useless, other people think otherwise.

I really don't see any value doing all these changes on existing code,
apart from adding noise to netdev and adding more work for us.

Using rules for new code is fine, but changing 10 years old code is
really not worth the pain.

I learned C 30 years ago, and using 'extern' is quite natural for me.

It's crazy the time we have to spend on these issues, while we have so
many bugs to fix in the kernel.


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