Thread (17 messages) 17 messages, 6 authors, 2013-06-03

Re: updated: kvm networking todo wiki

From: Anthony Liguori <hidden>
Date: 2013-05-30 13:40:47
Also in: kvm, qemu-devel, virtualization

Stefan Hajnoczi [off-list ref] writes:
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Rusty Russell [off-list ref] wrote:
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Anthony Liguori [off-list ref] writes:
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Rusty Russell [off-list ref] writes:
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On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 08:47:58AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
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FWIW, I think what's more interesting is using vhost-net as a networking
backend with virtio-net in QEMU being what's guest facing.

In theory, this gives you the best of both worlds: QEMU acts as a first
line of defense against a malicious guest while still getting the
performance advantages of vhost-net (zero-copy).
It would be an interesting idea if we didn't already have the vhost
model where we don't need the userspace bounce.
The model is very interesting for QEMU because then we can use vhost as
a backend for other types of network adapters (like vmxnet3 or even
e1000).

It also helps for things like fault tolerance where we need to be able
to control packet flow within QEMU.
(CC's reduced, context added, Dmitry Fleytman added for vmxnet3 thoughts).

Then I'm really confused as to what this would look like.  A zero copy
sendmsg?  We should be able to implement that today.

On the receive side, what can we do better than readv?  If we need to
return to userspace to tell the guest that we've got a new packet, we
don't win on latency.  We might reduce syscall overhead with a
multi-dimensional readv to read multiple packets at once?
Sounds like recvmmsg(2).
Could we map this to mergable rx buffers though?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori
Stefan
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