Thread (11 messages) 11 messages, 5 authors, 2012-07-03

Re: [RFC] [TCP 0/3] Receive from socket into bio without copying

From: Eric Dumazet <hidden>
Date: 2012-07-02 12:36:15
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On Mon, 2012-07-02 at 13:45 +0200, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
On Fri, 2012-06-29 at 17:08 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
quoted
This looks like yet another zero copy, needing another couple of hundred
of lines.
Kind of, yes.  We really want to make no copies at all though; the cpu
just passes buffers from one device to the other.
quoted
Why splice infrastructure doesnt fit your needs ?
The pipe api that splice is based on saves a copy between the kernel and
user space, but it currently writes to files, going through the page
cache.  For that, the alignment of data in the network receive buffers
doesn't matter.
No files or page cache are needed for splice() usage, for example from
socket to another socket.

It just works (check haproxy for an example), with 10Gb performance out
of the box.

The pipe is only a container for buffers, in case the data fetched from
producer cannot be fully sent to consumer. You don't want to lose this
data.

We want to go directly to the block layer instead.  This requires that
the network hardware receives the data into sector aligned buffers.
Hence the proposed MSG_NEW_PACKET flag.
This only is a hint something is wrong with the approach.
With that, it might be possible to implement a pipe "sink" that goes to
a bio instead of writing to a file.  Going through the pipe
infrastructure doesn't actually help in this case though, it's just
overhead.
There is no expensive overhead in splice() infrastructure, only some
small details that should be eventually solved instead of designing a
new zero copy mode.

You didnt actually tried splice() if you believe a regular file is
needed.

You only need proper splice() support (from pipe to bio), if not already
there.
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