Thread (53 messages) 53 messages, 9 authors, 2012-02-29

Re: [PATCH v11 10/12] ptrace,seccomp: Add PTRACE_SECCOMP support

From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Date: 2012-02-29 17:17:27
Also in: linux-arch, lkml

On 02/29, Will Drewry wrote:
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Oleg Nesterov [off-list ref] wrote:
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On 02/28, Will Drewry wrote:
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On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Will Drewry [off-list ref] wrote:
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On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Oleg Nesterov [off-list ref] wrote:
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Great. In this case this patch becomes really trivial. Just 2 defines
in ptrace.h and the unconditional ptrace_event() under SECCOMP_RET_TRACE.
hrm the only snag is that I can't then rely on TIF_SYSCALL_TRACE to
ensure seccomp is in the slow-path.  Right now, on x86, seccomp is
slow-path, but it doesn't have to be to have the syscall and args.
However, for ptrace to behavior properly, I believed it did need to be
in the slow path.  If SECCOMP_RET_TRACE doesn't rely on
PTRACE_SYSCALL, then it introduces a need for seccomp to always be in
the slow path or to flag (somehow) when it needs slow path.
My understanding of this magic is very limited, and I'm afraid
I misunderstood... So please correct me.

But what is the problem? system_call checks _TIF_WORK_SYSCALL_ENTRY
which includes _TIF_SECCOMP | _TIF_SYSCALL_TRACE, and jumps to
tracesys which does SAVE_REST.

Anyway. secure_computing() is called by syscall_trace_enter() which
also calls tracehook_report_syscall_entry(). If SECCOMP_RET_TRACE
can't do ptrace_event() then why tracehook_report_syscall_entry() is
fine?
Early on in this patch series, I was urged away from regviews (for
many reasons), one of them was so that seccomp could, at some point,
be fast-path'd like audit is for x86.  (It may be on arm already, I'd
need to check.)  So I was hoping that I could avoid adding a slow-path
dependency to the seccomp code.
Thanks, now I see what you meant.
By adding a requirement for the
slow-path in the form of ptrace_event(), the difficulty for making
seccomp fast-path friendly is increased.
Yes. I do not know if this is really bad. I mean, I do not know how
much do we want the fast-path'd seccomp.
(It could be possible to add
a return code, e.g., return NEEDS_SLOW_PATH, which tells the fast path
code to restart the handling at syscall_trace_enter, so maybe I am
making a big deal out of nothing.)
Probably. Or SECCOMP_RET_TRACE can set TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME.

(Btw there is another alternative although imho PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP
 looks better. SECCOMP_RET_TRACE can simply set TIF_SYSCALL_TRACE and
 return, syscall_trace_enter() will report the syscall. If we make it
 fast-path'ed, then TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME should trigger the slow path)
I was hoping to avoid having TIF_SECCOMP imply the slow-path, but if
that is the only sane way to integrate, then I can leave making it
fast-path friendly as a future exercise.

If I'm over-optimizing,
may be ;) but it is very possible I underestimate the problem.

I'd like to know what Roland thinks.

Oleg.
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