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There are two issues, which really seem distinct to me.

Users expect eth0 to map to first-onboard-nic. That's an installer 
issue (since the BIOS can already export this info) and I 

agree that 

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if we want to "fix" that, we should fix it there.

I agree that installers have to be fixed in the sense that 

they can be 

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told to find the right interface. But, they expect determinism and 
depend on "eth0 to map to first-onboard-nic". Installer is 

one of the 

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applications that is affected by this and needs user 

intervention, if 

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it is not told about the right interface. I discussed 

installer as it 

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is so much part of a user experience.

Right, but couldn't the installer do the work of scanning the 
SMBIOS to figure out which nics are onboard, and reorder the 
'eth*' names such that these are first? This state could then 
be written out as udev rules so that they persist across reboots.

I suppose, with udev loading modules, the rules generated at runtime
could run into the problem of duplicate names, if names are reordered in
the kernel namespace. (I.e the eth* namespace). Hence idea of an
alternate namespace.

With regards,
Narendra K