Thread (21 messages) 21 messages, 4 authors, 2008-10-22

Re: [PATCH 0/6] Add qdisc->ops->peek() support.

From: Patrick McHardy <hidden>
Date: 2008-10-17 14:12:10

Jarek Poplawski wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 02:33:23PM +0200, Patrick McHardy wrote:
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@@ -233,7 +233,9 @@ static int netem_enqueue(struct sk_buff *skb, struct Qdisc *sch)
 		 */
 		cb->time_to_send = psched_get_time();
 		q->counter = 0;
-		ret = q->qdisc->ops->requeue(skb, q->qdisc);
+		q->qdisc->flags |= TCQ_F_REQUEUE;
+		ret = qdisc_equeue(skb, q->qdisc);
+		q->qdisc->flags &= ~TCQ_F_REQUEUE;
Well, the inner qdisc would still need to logic to order packets
apprioriately.
I'm not sure I was understood: the idea is to do something like
in this example in tfifo_enqueue() in all leaf qdiscs like fifo
etc. too, so to redirect their ->enqueue() to their ->requeue()
which usually is qdisc_requeue() (or to it directly if needed).
Yes, I misunderstood this, I though the intention was to get
rid of requeue entirely.
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Its probably not that hard, but as I said, I don't
think its necessary at all. It only makes a difference with a
non-work-conserving inner qdisc, but a lot of the functionality of
netem requires the inner tfifo anyways and rate-limiting is usually
done on top of netem. So I would suggest so either hard-wire the
tfifo qdisc or at least make the assumption that inner qdiscs are
work-conserving.
Of course, I can do it like this, but wouldn't it break backward
compatibility for some users?
Some general thoughts ...

We've never had any systematic checks for useful and non-useful
combination of qdiscs, which is causing a lot of these complications.
Think of all the multiq work that was required to make it work
properly with non-work-conserving qdiscs - while at the same time,
using a non-work-conserving qdisc (which require a global view)
defeats basically all of the benefits.

So it would be really useful to come up with a systematic definition
of valid combinations instead of trying handling lots of purely
theoretical case that don't make sense. One more example - all the
qdiscs implement ->drop(), yet its only needed by CBQ and it doesn't
make any sense at all to use lets say HFSC as child of CBQ.

About this specific case - yes, it would break compatibility for
users using f.i. TBF as child of netem. But if you look at the
netem_enqueue() function, it in fact assumes that the inner qdisc
is a tfifo, so we'd be breaking an already broken case. We can
of course be nice and warn about it for a few releases, but I believe
there is some real potential for simplification that makes it
worth it.
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