Re: [PATCH 1/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently on alpha
From: Chris Snook <hidden>
Date: 2007-08-09 19:56:04
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Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Chris Snook wrote:quoted
Segher Boessenkool wrote:quoted
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The only safe way to get atomic accesses is to write assembler code. Are there any downsides to that? I don't see any.The assumption that aligned word reads and writes are atomic, and that words are aligned unless explicitly packed otherwise, is endemic in the kernel. No sane compiler violates this assumption. It's true that we're not portable to insane compilers after this patch, but we never were in the first place.You didn't answer my question: are there any downsides to using explicit coded-in-assembler accesses for atomic accesses? You can handwave all you want that it should "just work" with volatile accesses, but volatility != atomicity, volatile in C is really badly defined, GCC never officially gave stronger guarantees, and we have a bugzilla full of PRs to show what a minefield it is. So, why not use the well-defined alternative?Because we don't need to, and it hurts performance.It hurts performance by implementing 32-bit atomic reads in assembler?
No, I misunderstood the question. Implementing 32-bit atomic reads in assembler is redundant, because any sane compiler, *particularly* and optimizing compiler (and we're only in this mess because of optimizing compilers) will give us that automatically without the assembler. Yes, it is legal for a compiler to violate this assumption. It is also legal for us to refuse to maintain compatibility with compilers that suck this badly. That decision was made a very long time ago, and I consider it the correct decision. -- Chris