Thread (2 messages) 2 messages, 2 authors, 2005-01-28

Re: [PATCH] OpenBSD Networking-related randomization port

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From: Stephen Hemminger <hidden>
Date: 2005-01-28 18:18:51
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:47:55 +0100
Lorenzo Hernández García-Hierro [off-list ref] wrote:
El vie, 28-01-2005 a las 18:40 +0100, Adrian Bunk escribió:
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On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 06:17:17PM +0100, Lorenzo Hernández García-Hierro wrote:
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As it's impact is minimal (in performance and development/maintenance
terms), I recommend to merge it, as it gives a basic prevention for the
so-called system fingerprinting (which is used most by "kids" to know
how old and insecure could be a target system, many time used as the
first, even only-one, data to decide if attack or not the target host)
among other things.
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"basic prevention"?
I hardly see how this patch makes OS fingerprinting by e.g. Nmap 
impossible.
That's an example, as you can find at the grsecurity handbook [1]:

"The default Linux TCP/IP-stack has some properties that make it more
vulnerable to prediction-based hacks. By randomizing several items,
predicting the behaviour will be a lot more difficult."
No it just changes the fingerprint table.  "Hmm, this looks like a
newer generation system, must be OpenBSD or Linux".
"Randomized IP IDs hinders OS fingerprinting and will keep your machine
from being a bounce for an untraceable portscan."

References:
 [1]: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/hardened/grsecurity.xml
This is a very transitory effect, it works only because your machine
is then different from the typical Linux machine; therefore the scanner
will go on to the next obvious ones. But if this gets incorporated widely
then the rarity factor goes away and this defense becomes useless.

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Stephen Hemminger	[off-list ref]
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