Re: [MMTests] Interactivity during IO on ext3
From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Date: 2012-07-10 11:30:36
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On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:49:40AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
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=========================================================== Machine: arnold Result: http://www.csn.ul.ie/~mel/postings/mmtests-20120424/global-dhp__io-interactive-performance-ext3/arnold/comparison.html Arch: x86 CPUs: 1 socket, 2 threads Model: Pentium 4 Disk: Single Rotary Disk =========================================================== fsmark-single ------------- Completion times since 3.2 have been badly affected which coincides with the introduction of IO-less dirty page throttling. 3.3 was particularly bad. 2.6.32 was TERRIBLE in terms of read-latencies with the average latency and max latencies looking awful. The 90th percentile was close to 4 seconds and as a result the graphs are even more of a complete mess than they might have been otherwise. Otherwise it's worth looking closely at 3.0 and 3.2. In 3.0, 95% of the reads were below 206ms but in 3.2 this had grown to 273ms. The latency of the other 5% results increased from 481ms to 774ms. 3.4 is looking better at least.Yeah, 3.4 looks OK and I'd be interested in 3.5 results since I've merged one more fix which should help the read latency.
When 3.5 comes out, I'll be queue up the same tests. Ideally I would be running against each rc but the machines are used for other tests as well and these ones take too long for continual testing to be practical.
But all in all it's hard to tackle the latency problems with ext3 - we have a journal which synchronizes all the writes so we write to it with a high priority (we use WRITE_SYNC when there's some contention on the journal). But that naturally competes with reads and creates higher read latency.
Thanks for the good explanation. I'll just know to look out for this in interactivity-related or IO-latency bugs.
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<SNIP> ========================================================== Machine: hydra Result: http://www.csn.ul.ie/~mel/postings/mmtests-20120424/global-dhp__io-interactive-performance-ext3/hydra/comparison.html Arch: x86-64 CPUs: 1 socket, 4 threads Model: AMD Phenom II X4 940 Disk: Single Rotary Disk ========================================================== fsmark-single ------------- Completion times are all over the place with a big increase in 3.2 that improved a bit since but not as good as 3.1 kernels were. Unlike arnold, 2.6.32 is not a complete mess and makes a comparison more meaningful. Our maximum latencies have jumped around a lot with 3.2 being particularly bad and 3.4 not being much better. 3.1 and 3.3 were both good in terms of maximum latency. Average latency is shot to hell. In 2.6.32 it was 349ms and it's now 781ms. 3.2 was really bad but it's not like 3.0 or 3.1 were fantastic either.So I wonder what makes a difference between this machine and the previous one. The results seem completely different. Is it the amount of memory? Is it the difference in the disk? Or even the difference in the CPU?
Two big differences are 32-bit versus 64-bit and the 32-bit machine having 4G of RAM and the 64-bit machine having 8G. On the 32-bit machine, bounce buffering may have been an issue but as -S0 was specified (no sync) there would also be differences on when dirty page balancing took place. -- Mel Gorman SUSE Labs