Thread (23 messages) 23 messages, 4 authors, 2026-03-04

Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] rust: io: Add big-endian read and write functions

From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
Date: 2026-02-05 19:05:16
Also in: lkml, rust-for-linux

On Thu Feb 5, 2026 at 6:28 PM CET, Daniel Almeida wrote:
quoted
On 5 Feb 2026, at 12:16, Gary Guo [off-list ref] wrote:
I think we should have everything default to little endian, and have wrapper
types that do big endian which require expicit construction, similar to
RelaxedMmio in Alex's series.
Ah yes, the RelaxedMmio pattern is definitely a good one. I agree that we
should head in this direction.
I strongly disagree.

This is a great pattern for relaxed ordering because:

  (1) We need both strict and relaxed ordering.

  (2) Relaxed ordering is rare, hence it doesn't hurt to write e.g.

	io.relaxed().write()

  (3) If you by accident just write

	io.write()

      i.e. forget to call relaxed() it s not a bug, nothing bad happens.

Whereas for endianness it is a bad pattern because:

  (1) Devices are either little-endian or big-endian. Hence, having to write

	io.big_endian().write()

      is excessive, we always want big-endian for a big-endian device.

  (2) It is error prone, if you forget to call big_endian() first, it is a bug.

  (3) It is unergonomic in combination with relaxed ordering.

	io.big_endian().relaxed().write()

      (Does the other way around work as well? :)

It makes much more sense to define once when we request the I/O memory whether
the device is litte-endian or big-endian.

This could be done with different request functions, a const generic or a
function argument, but it should be done at request time.
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