Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] locking: Introduce local{,64}_try_cmpxchg
From: Uros Bizjak <hidden>
Date: 2023-04-05 18:54:02
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On Wed, Apr 5, 2023 at 6:37 PM Dave Hansen [off-list ref] wrote:
On 4/5/23 07:17, Uros Bizjak wrote:quoted
Add generic and target specific support for local{,64}_try_cmpxchg and wire up support for all targets that use local_t infrastructure.I feel like I'm missing some context. What are the actual end user visible effects of this series? Is there a measurable decrease in perf overhead? Why go to all this trouble for perf? Who else will use local_try_cmpxchg()?
This functionality was requested by perf people [1], so perhaps Steven can give us some concrete examples. In general, apart from the removal of unneeded compare instruction on x86, usage of try_cmpxchg also results in slightly better code on non-x86 targets [2], since the code now correctly identifies fast-path through the cmpxchg loop. Also important is that try_cmpxchg code reuses the result of cmpxchg instruction in the loop, so a read from the memory in the loop is eliminated. When reviewing the cmpxchg usage sites, I found numerous places where unnecessary read from memory was present in the loop, two examples can be seen in the last patch of this series. Also, using try_cmpxchg prevents inconsistencies of the cmpxchg loop, where the result of the cmpxchg is compared with the wrong "old" value - one such bug is still lurking in x86 APIC code, please see [3]. Please note that apart from perf subsystem, event subsystem can also be improved by using local_try_cmpxchg. This is the reason that the last patch includes a change in events/core.c.
I'm all for improving things, and perf is an important user. But, if the goal here is improving performance, it would be nice to see at least a stab at quantifying the performance delta.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230301131831.6c8d4ff5@gandalf.local.home/ (local) [2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yo91omfDZtTgXhyn@FVFF77S0Q05N.cambridge.arm.com/ (local) [3] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230227160917.107820-1-ubizjak@gmail.com/ (local) Uros.