Re: [RFC v2 01/39] Kconfig: introduce HAS_IOPORT option and select it as necessary
From: Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>
Date: 2022-05-06 09:41:22
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On Thu, 2022-05-05 at 14:53 -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
On Thu, May 05, 2022 at 07:39:42PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:quoted
On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 6:10 PM Bjorn Helgaas [off-list ref] wrote:quoted
On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 11:31:28PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:quoted
The main goal is to avoid c), which is what happens on s390, but can also happen elsewhere. Catching b) would be nice as well, but is much harder to do from generic code as you'd need an architecture specific inline asm statement to insert a ex_table fixup, or a runtime conditional on each access.Or s390 could implement its own inb(). I'm hearing that generic powerpc kernels have to run both on machines that have I/O port space and those that don't. That makes me think s390 could do something similar.No, this is actually the current situation, and it makes absolutely no sense. s390 has no way of implementing inb()/outb() because there are no instructions for it and it cannot tunnel them through a virtual address mapping like on most of the other architectures. (it has special instructions for accessing memory space, which is not the same as a pointer dereference here). The existing implementation gets flagged as a NULL pointer dereference by a compiler warning because it effectively is.I think s390 currently uses the inb() in asm-generic/io.h, i.e., "__raw_readb(PCI_IOBASE + addr)". I understand that's a NULL pointer dereference because the default PCI_IOBASE is 0. I mooted a s390 inb() implementation like "return ~0" because that's what happens on most arches when there's no device to respond to the inb(). The HAS_IOPORT dependencies are fairly ugly IMHO, and they clutter drivers that use I/O ports in some cases but not others. But maybe it's the most practical way. Bjorn
I fear such stubs are kind of equivalent to my previous patch doing the same in asm-generic/io.h that was pulled and then unpulled by Linus. Maybe it would be slightly different if instead of a warning outX() would just be a NOP and inX() just returned ~0 but we're in essence pretending that we have these functions when we know they are nonsense. Another argument I see is that as shown by POWER9 we might start to see more platforms that just can't do I/O port access. E.g. I would also be surprised if Apple's M1 has I/O port access. Sooner or later I expect distributions on some platforms to only support such systems. For example on ppc a server distribution might only support IBM POWER without I/O port support before too long. Then having HAS_IOPORT allows to get rid of drivers that won't work anyway. There are also reports of probing a driver with I/O ports causing a system crash on systems without I/O port support. For example in this answer by John Garry (added so he may supply more information): https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/db043b76-880d-5fad-69cf-96abcd9cd34f@huawei.com/ (local)