Thread (24 messages) 24 messages, 8 authors, 2020-07-16

Re: [RFC PATCH 00/35] Move all PCIBIOS* definitions into arch/x86

From: Kjetil Oftedal <hidden>
Date: 2020-07-14 21:02:44
Also in: linux-kernel-mentees, linux-pci, lkml, sparclinux

On 14/07/2020, Bjorn Helgaas [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
a) callers of the high-level config space accessors
   pci_{write,read}_config_{byte,word,dword}, mostly in device
   drivers.
b) low-level implementation of the config space accessors
    through struct pci_ops
c) all other occurrences of these constants

Starting with a), my first question is whether any high-level
drivers even need to care about errors from these functions. I see
4913 callers that ignore the return code, and 576 that actually
check it, and almost none care about the specific error (as you
found as well). Unless we conclude that most PCI drivers are wrong,
could we just change the return type to 'void' and assume they never
fail for valid arguments on a valid pci_device* ?
I really like this idea.

pci_write_config_*() has one return value, and only 100ish of 2500
callers check for errors.  It's sometimes possible for config
accessors to detect PCI errors and return failure, e.g., device was
removed or didn't respond, but most of them don't, and detecting these
errors is not really that valuable.

pci_read_config_*() is much more interesting because it returns two
things, the function return value and the value read from the PCI
device, and it's complicated to check both.

Again it's sometimes possible for config read accessors to detect PCI
errors, but in most cases a PCI error means the accessor returns
success and the value from PCI is ~0.

Checking the function return value catches programming errors (bad
alignment, etc) but misses most of the interesting errors (device was
unplugged or reported a PCI error).

Checking the value returned from PCI is tricky because ~0 is a valid
value for some config registers, and only the driver knows for sure.
If the driver knows that ~0 is a possible value, it would have to do
something else, e.g., another config read of a register that *cannot*
be ~0, to see whether it's really an error.

I suspect that if we had a single value to look at it would be easier
to get right.  Error checking with current interface would look like
this:

  err = pci_read_config_word(dev, addr, &val);
  if (err)
    return -EINVAL;

  if (PCI_POSSIBLE_ERROR(val)) {
    /* if driver knows ~0 is invalid */
    return -EINVAL;

    /* if ~0 is potentially a valid value */
    err = pci_read_config_word(dev, PCI_VENDOR_ID, &val2);
    if (err)
      return -EINVAL;

    if (PCI_POSSIBLE_ERROR(val2))
      return -EINVAL;
  }

Error checking with a possible interface that returned only a single
value could look like this:

  val = pci_config_read_word(dev, addr);
  if (PCI_POSSIBLE_ERROR(val)) {
    /* if driver knows ~0 is invalid */
    return -EINVAL;

    /* if ~0 is potentially a valid value */
    val2 = pci_config_read_word(dev, PCI_VENDOR_ID);
    if (PCI_POSSIBLE_ERROR(val2))
      return -EINVAL;
  }

Am I understanding you correctly?
Let us not do this. Reading config space is really expensive on some
architectures. Requiring a driver to do it twice on some values does not
improve upon that situation. And is quite redundant if the Root Complex
driver already knows that the first access has failed.

Additionally since multiple config accesses to the same devices is not
allowed in the spec, the hardware must block and wait for a timeout if
a config access does not get a response.
(Can happen if a intermediate link between the RC and endpoint has to retrain)
Having to block twice is very much not ideal. And in the case with
retraining the secondary access might even succeed. As the link might
recover between reading the first config word and reading PCI_VENDOR_ID.
Thus allowing the driver to accept invalid data from the device.
quoted
For b), it might be nice to also change other aspects of the
interface, e.g. passing a pci_host_bridge pointer plus bus number
instead of a pci_bus pointer, or having the callback in the
pci_host_bridge structure.
I like this idea a lot, too.  I think the fact that
pci_bus_read_config_word() requires a pci_bus * complicates things in
a few places.

I think it's completely separate, as you say, and we should defer it
for now because even part a) is a lot of work.  I added it to my list
of possible future projects.
What about strange PCI devices such as Non-Transparent bridges?
They will require their own PCI Config space accessors that is not
connected to a host bridge if one wants to do some sort of
punch-through enumeration.
I guess the kernel doesn't care much about them?

Best regards,
Kjetil Oftedal
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