From: Hoan Tran OS <hoan@os.amperecomputing.com> Date: 2019-07-11 23:25:53
In NUMA layout which nodes have memory ranges that span across other nodes,
the mm driver can detect the memory node id incorrectly.
For example, with layout below
Node 0 address: 0000 xxxx 0000 xxxx
Node 1 address: xxxx 1111 xxxx 1111
Note:
- Memory from low to high
- 0/1: Node id
- x: Invalid memory of a node
When mm probes the memory map, without CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
config, mm only checks the memory validity but not the node id.
Because of that, Node 1 also detects the memory from node 0 as below
when it scans from the start address to the end address of node 1.
Node 0 address: 0000 xxxx xxxx xxxx
Node 1 address: xxxx 1111 1111 1111
This layout could occur on any architecture. This patch enables
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES by default for NUMA to fix this issue.
V2:
* Revise the patch description
Hoan Tran (5):
mm: Enable CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES by default for NUMA
powerpc: Kconfig: Remove CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
x86: Kconfig: Remove CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
sparc: Kconfig: Remove CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
s390: Kconfig: Remove CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
arch/powerpc/Kconfig | 9 ---------
arch/s390/Kconfig | 8 --------
arch/sparc/Kconfig | 9 ---------
arch/x86/Kconfig | 9 ---------
mm/page_alloc.c | 2 +-
5 files changed, 1 insertion(+), 36 deletions(-)
--
2.7.4
From: Hoan Tran OS <hoan@os.amperecomputing.com> Date: 2019-07-11 23:25:57
In NUMA layout which nodes have memory ranges that span across other nodes,
the mm driver can detect the memory node id incorrectly.
For example, with layout below
Node 0 address: 0000 xxxx 0000 xxxx
Node 1 address: xxxx 1111 xxxx 1111
Note:
- Memory from low to high
- 0/1: Node id
- x: Invalid memory of a node
When mm probes the memory map, without CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
config, mm only checks the memory validity but not the node id.
Because of that, Node 1 also detects the memory from node 0 as below
when it scans from the start address to the end address of node 1.
Node 0 address: 0000 xxxx xxxx xxxx
Node 1 address: xxxx 1111 1111 1111
This layout could occur on any architecture. This patch enables
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES by default for NUMA to fix this issue.
Signed-off-by: Hoan Tran <Hoan@os.amperecomputing.com>
---
mm/page_alloc.c | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
@@ -1413,7 +1413,7 @@ int __meminit early_pfn_to_nid(unsigned long pfn)}#endif-#ifdef CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES+#ifdef CONFIG_NUMA/* Only safe to use early in boot when initialisation is single-threaded */staticinlinebool__meminitearly_pfn_in_nid(unsignedlongpfn,intnode){
@@ -629,15 +629,6 @@ config ARCH_MEMORY_PROBEdef_boolydepends onMEMORY_HOTPLUG-# Some NUMA nodes have memory ranges that span-# other nodes. Even though a pfn is valid and-# between a node's start and end pfns, it may not-# reside on that node. See memmap_init_zone()-# for details.-configNODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES-def_booly-depends onNEED_MULTIPLE_NODES-configSTDBINUTILSbool"Using standard binutils settings"depends on44x
@@ -1567,15 +1567,6 @@ config X86_64_ACPI_NUMA---help---EnableACPISRATbasednodetopologydetection.-# Some NUMA nodes have memory ranges that span-# other nodes. Even though a pfn is valid and-# between a node's start and end pfns, it may not-# reside on that node. See memmap_init_zone()-# for details.-configNODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES-def_booly-depends onX86_64_ACPI_NUMA-configNUMA_EMUbool"NUMA emulation"depends onNUMA
@@ -291,15 +291,6 @@ config NODES_SHIFTSpecifythemaximumnumberofNUMANodesavailableonthetargetsystem.Increasesmemoryreservedtoaccommodatevarioustables.-# Some NUMA nodes have memory ranges that span-# other nodes. Even though a pfn is valid and-# between a node's start and end pfns, it may not-# reside on that node. See memmap_init_zone()-# for details.-configNODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES-def_booly-depends onNEED_MULTIPLE_NODES-configARCH_SELECT_MEMORY_MODELdef_boolyifSPARC64
@@ -438,14 +438,6 @@ config HOTPLUG_CPUcanbecontrolledthrough/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu#.SayNifyouwanttodisableCPUhotplug.-# Some NUMA nodes have memory ranges that span-# other nodes. Even though a pfn is valid and-# between a node's start and end pfns, it may not-# reside on that node. See memmap_init_zone()-# for details. <- They meant memory holes!-configNODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES-def_boolNUMA-configNUMAbool"NUMA support"depends onSMP&&SCHED_TOPOLOGY
From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> Date: 2019-07-12 02:46:25
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:25:44PM +0000, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
In NUMA layout which nodes have memory ranges that span across other nodes,
the mm driver can detect the memory node id incorrectly.
For example, with layout below
Node 0 address: 0000 xxxx 0000 xxxx
Node 1 address: xxxx 1111 xxxx 1111
Note:
- Memory from low to high
- 0/1: Node id
- x: Invalid memory of a node
When mm probes the memory map, without CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
config, mm only checks the memory validity but not the node id.
Because of that, Node 1 also detects the memory from node 0 as below
when it scans from the start address to the end address of node 1.
Node 0 address: 0000 xxxx xxxx xxxx
Node 1 address: xxxx 1111 1111 1111
This layout could occur on any architecture. This patch enables
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES by default for NUMA to fix this issue.
How do you know it could occur on any architecture? Surely you should
just enable this for the architecture where you've noticed the problem.
From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> Date: 2019-07-12 07:02:53
On Thu 11-07-19 23:25:44, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
In NUMA layout which nodes have memory ranges that span across other nodes,
the mm driver can detect the memory node id incorrectly.
For example, with layout below
Node 0 address: 0000 xxxx 0000 xxxx
Node 1 address: xxxx 1111 xxxx 1111
Note:
- Memory from low to high
- 0/1: Node id
- x: Invalid memory of a node
When mm probes the memory map, without CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
config, mm only checks the memory validity but not the node id.
Because of that, Node 1 also detects the memory from node 0 as below
when it scans from the start address to the end address of node 1.
Node 0 address: 0000 xxxx xxxx xxxx
Node 1 address: xxxx 1111 1111 1111
This layout could occur on any architecture. This patch enables
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES by default for NUMA to fix this issue.
Yes it can occur on any arch but most sane platforms simply do not
overlap physical ranges. So I do not really see any reason to
unconditionally enable the config for everybody. What is an advantage?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
From: Hoan Tran OS <hoan@os.amperecomputing.com> Date: 2019-07-12 10:56:54
Hi,
On 7/12/19 2:02 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
On Thu 11-07-19 23:25:44, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
quoted
In NUMA layout which nodes have memory ranges that span across other nodes,
the mm driver can detect the memory node id incorrectly.
For example, with layout below
Node 0 address: 0000 xxxx 0000 xxxx
Node 1 address: xxxx 1111 xxxx 1111
Note:
- Memory from low to high
- 0/1: Node id
- x: Invalid memory of a node
When mm probes the memory map, without CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
config, mm only checks the memory validity but not the node id.
Because of that, Node 1 also detects the memory from node 0 as below
when it scans from the start address to the end address of node 1.
Node 0 address: 0000 xxxx xxxx xxxx
Node 1 address: xxxx 1111 1111 1111
This layout could occur on any architecture. This patch enables
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES by default for NUMA to fix this issue.
Yes it can occur on any arch but most sane platforms simply do not
overlap physical ranges. So I do not really see any reason to
unconditionally enable the config for everybody. What is an advantage?
As I observed from arch folder, there are 9 arch support NUMA config.
./arch/ia64/Kconfig:387:config NUMA
./arch/powerpc/Kconfig:582:config NUMA
./arch/sparc/Kconfig:281:config NUMA
./arch/alpha/Kconfig:557:config NUMA
./arch/sh/mm/Kconfig:112:config NUMA
./arch/arm64/Kconfig:841:config NUMA
./arch/x86/Kconfig:1531:config NUMA
./arch/mips/Kconfig:2646:config NUMA
./arch/s390/Kconfig:441:config NUMA
And there are 5 arch enables CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES with NUMA
arch/powerpc/Kconfig:637:config NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
arch/sparc/Kconfig:299:config NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
arch/x86/Kconfig:1575:config NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
arch/s390/Kconfig:446:config NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
arch/arm64 (which I intended to enable in the original patch)
It would be good if we can enable it by-default. Otherwise, let arch
enables it by them-self. Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks
Hoan
From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> Date: 2019-07-12 12:12:31
On Fri 12-07-19 10:56:47, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
[...]
It would be good if we can enable it by-default. Otherwise, let arch
enables it by them-self. Do you have any suggestions?
I can hardly make any suggestions when it is not really clear _why_ you
want to remove this config option in the first place. Please explain
what motivated you to make this change.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> Date: 2019-07-12 14:37:41
Hi all,
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 02:12:23PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
On Fri 12-07-19 10:56:47, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
[...]
quoted
It would be good if we can enable it by-default. Otherwise, let arch
enables it by them-self. Do you have any suggestions?
I can hardly make any suggestions when it is not really clear _why_ you
want to remove this config option in the first place. Please explain
what motivated you to make this change.
Sorry, I think this confusion might actually be my fault and Hoan has just
been implementing my vague suggestion here:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20190625101245.s4vxfosoop52gl4e@willie-the-truck/
If the preference of the mm folks is to leave CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
as it is, then we can define it for arm64. I just find it a bit weird that
the majority of NUMA-capable architectures have to add a symbol in the arch
Kconfig file, for what appears to be a performance optimisation applicable
only to ia64, mips and sh.
At the very least we could make the thing selectable.
Will
From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> Date: 2019-07-12 15:00:13
On Fri 12-07-19 15:37:30, Will Deacon wrote:
Hi all,
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 02:12:23PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
On Fri 12-07-19 10:56:47, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
[...]
quoted
It would be good if we can enable it by-default. Otherwise, let arch
enables it by them-self. Do you have any suggestions?
I can hardly make any suggestions when it is not really clear _why_ you
want to remove this config option in the first place. Please explain
what motivated you to make this change.
Sorry, I think this confusion might actually be my fault and Hoan has just
been implementing my vague suggestion here:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20190625101245.s4vxfosoop52gl4e@willie-the-truck/
If the preference of the mm folks is to leave CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
as it is, then we can define it for arm64. I just find it a bit weird that
the majority of NUMA-capable architectures have to add a symbol in the arch
Kconfig file, for what appears to be a performance optimisation applicable
only to ia64, mips and sh.
At the very least we could make the thing selectable.
Hmm, I thought this was selectable. But I am obviously wrong here.
Looking more closely, it seems that this is indeed only about
__early_pfn_to_nid and as such not something that should add a config
symbol. This should have been called out in the changelog though.
Also while at it, does HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP fall into a similar
bucket? Do we have any NUMA architecture that doesn't enable it?
Thanks!
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
From: Hoan Tran OS <hoan@os.amperecomputing.com> Date: 2019-07-15 17:55:26
Hi,
On 7/12/19 10:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
On Fri 12-07-19 15:37:30, Will Deacon wrote:
quoted
Hi all,
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 02:12:23PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
On Fri 12-07-19 10:56:47, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
[...]
quoted
It would be good if we can enable it by-default. Otherwise, let arch
enables it by them-self. Do you have any suggestions?
I can hardly make any suggestions when it is not really clear _why_ you
want to remove this config option in the first place. Please explain
what motivated you to make this change.
Sorry, I think this confusion might actually be my fault and Hoan has just
been implementing my vague suggestion here:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20190625101245.s4vxfosoop52gl4e@willie-the-truck/
If the preference of the mm folks is to leave CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
as it is, then we can define it for arm64. I just find it a bit weird that
the majority of NUMA-capable architectures have to add a symbol in the arch
Kconfig file, for what appears to be a performance optimisation applicable
only to ia64, mips and sh.
At the very least we could make the thing selectable.
Hmm, I thought this was selectable. But I am obviously wrong here.
Looking more closely, it seems that this is indeed only about
__early_pfn_to_nid and as such not something that should add a config
symbol. This should have been called out in the changelog though.
Yes, do you have any other comments about my patch?
Also while at it, does HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP fall into a similar
bucket? Do we have any NUMA architecture that doesn't enable it?
As I checked with arch Kconfig files, there are 2 architectures, riscv
and microblaze, do not support NUMA but enable this config.
And 1 architecture, alpha, supports NUMA but does not enable this config.
Thanks and Regards
Hoan
From: Thomas Gleixner <hidden> Date: 2019-07-15 18:45:12
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
Remove CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES as it's enabled
by default with NUMA.
As I told you before this does not mention that the option is now enabled
even for x86(32bit) configurations which did not enable it before and does
not longer depend on X86_64_ACPI_NUMA.
And there is still no rationale why this makes sense.
Thanks,
tglx
From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> Date: 2019-07-30 08:14:22
[Sorry for a late reply]
On Mon 15-07-19 17:55:07, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
Hi,
On 7/12/19 10:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
quoted
Hmm, I thought this was selectable. But I am obviously wrong here.
Looking more closely, it seems that this is indeed only about
__early_pfn_to_nid and as such not something that should add a config
symbol. This should have been called out in the changelog though.
Yes, do you have any other comments about my patch?
Not really. Just make sure to explicitly state that
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES is only about __early_pfn_to_nid and that
doesn't really deserve it's own config and can be pulled under NUMA.
quoted
Also while at it, does HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP fall into a similar
bucket? Do we have any NUMA architecture that doesn't enable it?
As I checked with arch Kconfig files, there are 2 architectures, riscv
and microblaze, do not support NUMA but enable this config.
And 1 architecture, alpha, supports NUMA but does not enable this config.
Care to have a look and clean this up please?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
From: Hoan Tran OS <hoan@os.amperecomputing.com> Date: 2019-07-30 17:32:59
Hi,
On 7/30/19 1:14 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
[Sorry for a late reply]
On Mon 15-07-19 17:55:07, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
quoted
Hi,
On 7/12/19 10:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
quoted
quoted
Hmm, I thought this was selectable. But I am obviously wrong here.
Looking more closely, it seems that this is indeed only about
__early_pfn_to_nid and as such not something that should add a config
symbol. This should have been called out in the changelog though.
Yes, do you have any other comments about my patch?
Not really. Just make sure to explicitly state that
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES is only about __early_pfn_to_nid and that
doesn't really deserve it's own config and can be pulled under NUMA.
Yes, I will add this info into the patch description.
quoted
quoted
Also while at it, does HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP fall into a similar
bucket? Do we have any NUMA architecture that doesn't enable it?
As I checked with arch Kconfig files, there are 2 architectures, riscv
and microblaze, do not support NUMA but enable this config.
And 1 architecture, alpha, supports NUMA but does not enable this config.
From: Mike Rapoport <hidden> Date: 2019-07-31 06:24:39
[ sorry for a late reply too, somehow I missed this thread before ]
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 10:14:15AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
[Sorry for a late reply]
On Mon 15-07-19 17:55:07, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
quoted
Hi,
On 7/12/19 10:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
quoted
quoted
Hmm, I thought this was selectable. But I am obviously wrong here.
Looking more closely, it seems that this is indeed only about
__early_pfn_to_nid and as such not something that should add a config
symbol. This should have been called out in the changelog though.
Yes, do you have any other comments about my patch?
Not really. Just make sure to explicitly state that
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES is only about __early_pfn_to_nid and that
doesn't really deserve it's own config and can be pulled under NUMA.
quoted
quoted
Also while at it, does HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP fall into a similar
bucket? Do we have any NUMA architecture that doesn't enable it?
HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP makes huge difference in node/zone initialization
sequence so it's not only about a singe function.
quoted
As I checked with arch Kconfig files, there are 2 architectures, riscv
and microblaze, do not support NUMA but enable this config.
My take would be that riscv will support NUMA some day.
quoted
And 1 architecture, alpha, supports NUMA but does not enable this config.
alpha's NUMA support is BROKEN for more than a decade now, I doubt it'll
ever get fixed.
Care to have a look and clean this up please?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> Date: 2019-07-31 08:03:15
On Wed 31-07-19 09:24:21, Mike Rapoport wrote:
[ sorry for a late reply too, somehow I missed this thread before ]
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 10:14:15AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
[Sorry for a late reply]
On Mon 15-07-19 17:55:07, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
quoted
Hi,
On 7/12/19 10:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
quoted
quoted
Hmm, I thought this was selectable. But I am obviously wrong here.
Looking more closely, it seems that this is indeed only about
__early_pfn_to_nid and as such not something that should add a config
symbol. This should have been called out in the changelog though.
Yes, do you have any other comments about my patch?
Not really. Just make sure to explicitly state that
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES is only about __early_pfn_to_nid and that
doesn't really deserve it's own config and can be pulled under NUMA.
quoted
quoted
Also while at it, does HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP fall into a similar
bucket? Do we have any NUMA architecture that doesn't enable it?
HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP makes huge difference in node/zone initialization
sequence so it's not only about a singe function.
The question is whether we want to have this a config option or enable
it unconditionally for each NUMA system.
quoted
quoted
As I checked with arch Kconfig files, there are 2 architectures, riscv
and microblaze, do not support NUMA but enable this config.
My take would be that riscv will support NUMA some day.
quoted
quoted
And 1 architecture, alpha, supports NUMA but does not enable this config.
alpha's NUMA support is BROKEN for more than a decade now, I doubt it'll
ever get fixed.
I can see Al has marked it BROKEN in 2005. Maybe time to rip it out?
Although it doesn't seem to be a lot of code in arch/alpha at first
glance so maybe not worth an effort.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
From: Mike Rapoport <hidden> Date: 2019-07-31 11:14:42
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:03:09AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
On Wed 31-07-19 09:24:21, Mike Rapoport wrote:
quoted
[ sorry for a late reply too, somehow I missed this thread before ]
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 10:14:15AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
[Sorry for a late reply]
On Mon 15-07-19 17:55:07, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
quoted
Hi,
On 7/12/19 10:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
quoted
quoted
Hmm, I thought this was selectable. But I am obviously wrong here.
Looking more closely, it seems that this is indeed only about
__early_pfn_to_nid and as such not something that should add a config
symbol. This should have been called out in the changelog though.
Yes, do you have any other comments about my patch?
Not really. Just make sure to explicitly state that
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES is only about __early_pfn_to_nid and that
doesn't really deserve it's own config and can be pulled under NUMA.
quoted
quoted
Also while at it, does HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP fall into a similar
bucket? Do we have any NUMA architecture that doesn't enable it?
HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP makes huge difference in node/zone initialization
sequence so it's not only about a singe function.
The question is whether we want to have this a config option or enable
it unconditionally for each NUMA system.
We can make it 'default NUMA', but we can't drop it completely because
microblaze uses sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions() which is
unavailable when HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP=n.
quoted
quoted
quoted
As I checked with arch Kconfig files, there are 2 architectures, riscv
and microblaze, do not support NUMA but enable this config.
My take would be that riscv will support NUMA some day.
quoted
quoted
And 1 architecture, alpha, supports NUMA but does not enable this config.
alpha's NUMA support is BROKEN for more than a decade now, I doubt it'll
ever get fixed.
I can see Al has marked it BROKEN in 2005. Maybe time to rip it out?
Although it doesn't seem to be a lot of code in arch/alpha at first
glance so maybe not worth an effort.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> Date: 2019-07-31 11:40:21
On Wed 31-07-19 14:14:22, Mike Rapoport wrote:
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:03:09AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
On Wed 31-07-19 09:24:21, Mike Rapoport wrote:
quoted
[ sorry for a late reply too, somehow I missed this thread before ]
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 10:14:15AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
[Sorry for a late reply]
On Mon 15-07-19 17:55:07, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
quoted
Hi,
On 7/12/19 10:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
quoted
quoted
Hmm, I thought this was selectable. But I am obviously wrong here.
Looking more closely, it seems that this is indeed only about
__early_pfn_to_nid and as such not something that should add a config
symbol. This should have been called out in the changelog though.
Yes, do you have any other comments about my patch?
Not really. Just make sure to explicitly state that
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES is only about __early_pfn_to_nid and that
doesn't really deserve it's own config and can be pulled under NUMA.
quoted
quoted
Also while at it, does HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP fall into a similar
bucket? Do we have any NUMA architecture that doesn't enable it?
HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP makes huge difference in node/zone initialization
sequence so it's not only about a singe function.
The question is whether we want to have this a config option or enable
it unconditionally for each NUMA system.
We can make it 'default NUMA', but we can't drop it completely because
microblaze uses sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions() which is
unavailable when HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP=n.
I suppose you mean that microblaze is using
sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions even without CONFIG_NUMA,
right? I have to confess I do not understand that code. What is the deal
with setting node id there?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
From: Mike Rapoport <hidden> Date: 2019-07-31 12:26:50
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 01:40:16PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
On Wed 31-07-19 14:14:22, Mike Rapoport wrote:
quoted
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:03:09AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
On Wed 31-07-19 09:24:21, Mike Rapoport wrote:
quoted
[ sorry for a late reply too, somehow I missed this thread before ]
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 10:14:15AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
[Sorry for a late reply]
On Mon 15-07-19 17:55:07, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
quoted
Hi,
On 7/12/19 10:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
quoted
quoted
Hmm, I thought this was selectable. But I am obviously wrong here.
Looking more closely, it seems that this is indeed only about
__early_pfn_to_nid and as such not something that should add a config
symbol. This should have been called out in the changelog though.
Yes, do you have any other comments about my patch?
Not really. Just make sure to explicitly state that
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES is only about __early_pfn_to_nid and that
doesn't really deserve it's own config and can be pulled under NUMA.
quoted
quoted
Also while at it, does HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP fall into a similar
bucket? Do we have any NUMA architecture that doesn't enable it?
HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP makes huge difference in node/zone initialization
sequence so it's not only about a singe function.
The question is whether we want to have this a config option or enable
it unconditionally for each NUMA system.
We can make it 'default NUMA', but we can't drop it completely because
microblaze uses sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions() which is
unavailable when HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP=n.
I suppose you mean that microblaze is using
sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions even without CONFIG_NUMA,
right?
Yes.
I have to confess I do not understand that code. What is the deal
with setting node id there?
The sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions() iterates over
memblock.memory regions and uses the node id of each region as the
parameter to memory_present(). The assumption here is that sometime before
each region was assigned a proper non-negative node id.
microblaze uses device tree for memory enumeration and the current FDT code
does memblock_add() that implicitly sets nid in memblock.memory regions to -1.
So in order to have proper node id passed to memory_present() microblaze
has to call memblock_set_node() before it can use
sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions().
From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> Date: 2019-07-31 13:00:45
On Wed 31-07-19 15:26:32, Mike Rapoport wrote:
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 01:40:16PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
On Wed 31-07-19 14:14:22, Mike Rapoport wrote:
quoted
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:03:09AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
On Wed 31-07-19 09:24:21, Mike Rapoport wrote:
quoted
[ sorry for a late reply too, somehow I missed this thread before ]
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 10:14:15AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
[Sorry for a late reply]
On Mon 15-07-19 17:55:07, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
quoted
Hi,
On 7/12/19 10:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
quoted
quoted
Hmm, I thought this was selectable. But I am obviously wrong here.
Looking more closely, it seems that this is indeed only about
__early_pfn_to_nid and as such not something that should add a config
symbol. This should have been called out in the changelog though.
Yes, do you have any other comments about my patch?
Not really. Just make sure to explicitly state that
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES is only about __early_pfn_to_nid and that
doesn't really deserve it's own config and can be pulled under NUMA.
quoted
quoted
Also while at it, does HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP fall into a similar
bucket? Do we have any NUMA architecture that doesn't enable it?
HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP makes huge difference in node/zone initialization
sequence so it's not only about a singe function.
The question is whether we want to have this a config option or enable
it unconditionally for each NUMA system.
We can make it 'default NUMA', but we can't drop it completely because
microblaze uses sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions() which is
unavailable when HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP=n.
I suppose you mean that microblaze is using
sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions even without CONFIG_NUMA,
right?
Yes.
quoted
I have to confess I do not understand that code. What is the deal
with setting node id there?
The sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions() iterates over
memblock.memory regions and uses the node id of each region as the
parameter to memory_present(). The assumption here is that sometime before
each region was assigned a proper non-negative node id.
microblaze uses device tree for memory enumeration and the current FDT code
does memblock_add() that implicitly sets nid in memblock.memory regions to -1.
So in order to have proper node id passed to memory_present() microblaze
has to call memblock_set_node() before it can use
sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions().
I am sorry, but I still do not follow. Who is consuming that node id
information when NUMA=n. In other words why cannot we simply do
@@ -175,14 +175,9 @@ void __init setup_memory(void)start_pfn=memblock_region_memory_base_pfn(reg);end_pfn=memblock_region_memory_end_pfn(reg);-memblock_set_node(start_pfn<<PAGE_SHIFT,-(end_pfn-start_pfn)<<PAGE_SHIFT,-&memblock.memory,0);+memory_present(0,start_pfn<<PAGE_SHIFT,end_pfn<<PAGE_SHIFT);}-/* XXX need to clip this if using highmem? */-sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions(0);-paging_init();}
From: Mike Rapoport <hidden> Date: 2019-07-31 14:21:50
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 03:00:37PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
On Wed 31-07-19 15:26:32, Mike Rapoport wrote:
quoted
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 01:40:16PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
On Wed 31-07-19 14:14:22, Mike Rapoport wrote:
quoted
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:03:09AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
On Wed 31-07-19 09:24:21, Mike Rapoport wrote:
quoted
[ sorry for a late reply too, somehow I missed this thread before ]
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 10:14:15AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
[Sorry for a late reply]
On Mon 15-07-19 17:55:07, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
quoted
Hi,
On 7/12/19 10:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
quoted
quoted
Hmm, I thought this was selectable. But I am obviously wrong here.
Looking more closely, it seems that this is indeed only about
__early_pfn_to_nid and as such not something that should add a config
symbol. This should have been called out in the changelog though.
Yes, do you have any other comments about my patch?
Not really. Just make sure to explicitly state that
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES is only about __early_pfn_to_nid and that
doesn't really deserve it's own config and can be pulled under NUMA.
quoted
quoted
Also while at it, does HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP fall into a similar
bucket? Do we have any NUMA architecture that doesn't enable it?
HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP makes huge difference in node/zone initialization
sequence so it's not only about a singe function.
The question is whether we want to have this a config option or enable
it unconditionally for each NUMA system.
We can make it 'default NUMA', but we can't drop it completely because
microblaze uses sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions() which is
unavailable when HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP=n.
I suppose you mean that microblaze is using
sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions even without CONFIG_NUMA,
right?
Yes.
quoted
I have to confess I do not understand that code. What is the deal
with setting node id there?
The sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions() iterates over
memblock.memory regions and uses the node id of each region as the
parameter to memory_present(). The assumption here is that sometime before
each region was assigned a proper non-negative node id.
microblaze uses device tree for memory enumeration and the current FDT code
does memblock_add() that implicitly sets nid in memblock.memory regions to -1.
So in order to have proper node id passed to memory_present() microblaze
has to call memblock_set_node() before it can use
sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions().
I am sorry, but I still do not follow. Who is consuming that node id
information when NUMA=n. In other words why cannot we simply do
From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> Date: 2019-07-31 14:41:22
On Wed 31-07-19 17:21:29, Mike Rapoport wrote:
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 03:00:37PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
On Wed 31-07-19 15:26:32, Mike Rapoport wrote:
quoted
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 01:40:16PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
On Wed 31-07-19 14:14:22, Mike Rapoport wrote:
quoted
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:03:09AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
On Wed 31-07-19 09:24:21, Mike Rapoport wrote:
quoted
[ sorry for a late reply too, somehow I missed this thread before ]
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 10:14:15AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
quoted
[Sorry for a late reply]
On Mon 15-07-19 17:55:07, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
quoted
Hi,
On 7/12/19 10:00 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
quoted
quoted
Hmm, I thought this was selectable. But I am obviously wrong here.
Looking more closely, it seems that this is indeed only about
__early_pfn_to_nid and as such not something that should add a config
symbol. This should have been called out in the changelog though.
Yes, do you have any other comments about my patch?
Not really. Just make sure to explicitly state that
CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES is only about __early_pfn_to_nid and that
doesn't really deserve it's own config and can be pulled under NUMA.
quoted
quoted
Also while at it, does HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP fall into a similar
bucket? Do we have any NUMA architecture that doesn't enable it?
HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP makes huge difference in node/zone initialization
sequence so it's not only about a singe function.
The question is whether we want to have this a config option or enable
it unconditionally for each NUMA system.
We can make it 'default NUMA', but we can't drop it completely because
microblaze uses sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions() which is
unavailable when HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP=n.
I suppose you mean that microblaze is using
sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions even without CONFIG_NUMA,
right?
Yes.
quoted
I have to confess I do not understand that code. What is the deal
with setting node id there?
The sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions() iterates over
memblock.memory regions and uses the node id of each region as the
parameter to memory_present(). The assumption here is that sometime before
each region was assigned a proper non-negative node id.
microblaze uses device tree for memory enumeration and the current FDT code
does memblock_add() that implicitly sets nid in memblock.memory regions to -1.
So in order to have proper node id passed to memory_present() microblaze
has to call memblock_set_node() before it can use
sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions().
I am sorry, but I still do not follow. Who is consuming that node id
information when NUMA=n. In other words why cannot we simply do
We can, I think nobody cared to change it.
It would be great if somebody with the actual HW could try it out.
I can throw a patch but I do not even have a cross compiler in my
toolbox.
From: Hoan Tran OS <hoan@os.amperecomputing.com> Date: 2019-08-06 16:47:24
Hi Thomas,
On 7/15/19 11:43 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019, Hoan Tran OS wrote:
quoted
Remove CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES as it's enabled
by default with NUMA.
As I told you before this does not mention that the option is now enabled
even for x86(32bit) configurations which did not enable it before and does
not longer depend on X86_64_ACPI_NUMA.
Agreed, let me add it into this patch description.
And there is still no rationale why this makes sense.
As we know about the memmap_init_zone() function, it is used to
initialize all pages. During initializing, early_pfn_in_nid() function
makes sure the page is in the same node id. Otherwise,
memmap_init_zone() only checks the page validity. It won't work with
node memory spans across the others.
The option CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES is only used to enable
early_pfn_in_nid() function.
It occurs during boot-time and won't affect the run-time performance.
And I saw the majority NUMA architectures enable this option by default
with NUMA.
Thanks and Regards
Hoan
memory_present() expects pfns, the shift is not needed.
Right.
Sorry for slow response on this. In general regarding this topic.
Microblaze is soft core CPU (now there are hardcore versions too but not
running Linux). I believe there could be Numa system with
microblaze/microblazes (SMP is not supported in mainline).
This code was added in 2011 which is pretty hard to remember why it was
done in this way.
It compiles but not working on HW. Please take a look at log below.
Thanks,
Michal
[ 0.000000] Linux version 5.3.0-rc6-00007-g54b01939182f-dirty
(monstr@monstr-desktop3) (gcc version 8.2.0 (crosstool-NG 1.20.0)) #101
Mon Sep 2 15:44:05 CEST 2019
[ 0.000000] setup_memory: max_mapnr: 0x40000
[ 0.000000] setup_memory: min_low_pfn: 0x80000
[ 0.000000] setup_memory: max_low_pfn: 0xb0000
[ 0.000000] setup_memory: max_pfn: 0xc0000
[ 0.000000] start pfn 0x80000
[ 0.000000] end pfn 0xc0000
[ 0.000000] Zone ranges:
[ 0.000000] DMA [mem 0x0000000080000000-0x00000000afffffff]
[ 0.000000] Normal empty
[ 0.000000] HighMem [mem 0x00000000b0000000-0x00000000bfffffff]
[ 0.000000] Movable zone start for each node
[ 0.000000] Early memory node ranges
[ 0.000000] node 1: [mem 0x0000000080000000-0x00000000bfffffff]
[ 0.000000] Could not find start_pfn for node 0
[ 0.000000] Initmem setup node 0 [mem
0x0000000000000000-0x0000000000000000]
This does not look good :)
I think the problem is that without an explicit call to memblock_set_node()
the ->nid in memblock is MAX_NUMNODES but free_area_init_nodes() presumes
actual node ids are properly set.