Thread (39 messages) flat view 39 messages, 9 authors, 2018-08-17

Re: [PATCH v7 8/9] powerpc/mce: Add sysctl control for recovery action on MCE.

From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Date: 2018-08-09 08:03:03

On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 16:34:07 +1000
Michael Ellerman [off-list ref] wrote:
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" [off-list ref] writes:
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On 08/08/2018 08:26 PM, Michael Ellerman wrote:  
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Mahesh J Salgaonkar [off-list ref] writes:  
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From: Mahesh Salgaonkar <redacted>

Introduce recovery action for recovered memory errors (MCEs). There are
soft memory errors like SLB Multihit, which can be a result of a bad
hardware OR software BUG. Kernel can easily recover from these soft errors
by flushing SLB contents. After the recovery kernel can still continue to
function without any issue. But in some scenario's we may keep getting
these soft errors until the root cause is fixed. To be able to analyze and
find the root cause, best way is to gather enough data and system state at
the time of MCE. Hence this patch introduces a sysctl knob where user can
decide either to continue after recovery or panic the kernel to capture the
dump.  
I'm not convinced we want this.

As we've discovered it's often not possible to reconstruct what happened
based on a dump anyway.

The key thing you need is the content of the SLB and that's not included
in a dump.

So I think we should dump the SLB content when we get the MCE (which
this series does) and any other useful info, and then if we can recover
we should.  
The reasoning there is what if we got multi-hit due to some corruption 
in slb_cache_ptr. ie. some part of kernel is wrongly updating the paca 
data structure due to wrong pointer. Now that is far fetched, but then 
possible right?. Hence the idea that, if we don't have much insight into 
why a slb multi-hit occur from the dmesg which include slb content, 
slb_cache contents etc, there should be an easy way to force a dump that 
might assist in further debug.  
If you're debugging something complex that you can't determine from the
SLB dump then you should be running a debug kernel anyway. And if
anything you want to drop into xmon and sit there, preserving the most
state, rather than taking a dump.
I'm not saying for a dump specifically, just some form of crash. And we
really should have an option to xmon on panic, but that's another story.

I think HA/failover kind of environments use options like this too. If
anything starts going bad they don't want to try limping along but stop
ASAP.

Thanks,
Nick
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