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Re: [PATCH v3 01/15] stacktrace/x86: add function for detecting reliable stack traces

From: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
Date: 2016-12-19 18:23:08
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2016, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 05:25:19PM +0100, Miroslav Benes wrote:
quoted
On Thu, 8 Dec 2016, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
quoted
diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
index 215612c..b4a6663 100644
--- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
@@ -155,6 +155,7 @@ config X86
 	select HAVE_PERF_REGS
 	select HAVE_PERF_USER_STACK_DUMP
 	select HAVE_REGS_AND_STACK_ACCESS_API
+	select HAVE_RELIABLE_STACKTRACE		if X86_64 && FRAME_POINTER && STACK_VALIDATION
Tests to measure possible performance penalty of frame pointers were done 
by Mel Gorman. The outcome was quite clear. There IS a measurable 
impact. The percentage depends on the workflow but I think it is safe to 
say that FP usually takes 5-10 percents.

If my understanding is correct there is no single culprit. Register 
pressure is definitely not a problem. We ran simple benchmarks while 
taking a register away from GCC (RBP or a common one). The impact is a 
combination of more cacheline pressure, more memory accesses and the fact 
that the kernel contains a lot of small functions.

Thus, I think that DWARF should be the way to go here.

Other than that the patch looks good to me.
I agree that DWARF is generally a good idea, and I'm working toward it.
However there's still quite a bit of work to get there.

For this consistency model to work with DWARF on x86, we would need:

1) a reliable x86 DWARF unwinder with Linus's blessing
2) objtool DWARF support (I'm working on this at the moment)
3) probably some kind of runtime NMI stack checking feature to
   complement objtool, along with a lot of burn time to ensure there are
   no issues, particularly in entry code
4) port save_stack_trace_tsk_reliable() to work with DWARF
Yes, this is a lot of work to do.
 
DWARF will be nice to have, but it's definitely not required before
merging this consistency model.
Oh, I didn't mean it to be done before merging this patch set. Sorry for 
the confusion. The point was that as long as the performance is involved 
FP does not look that promising and DWARF could be better (but who knows, 
right?).
Also I doubt we'll ever be able to drop frame pointer support
completely.  Some embedded systems may not want the overhead of the
DWARF metadata.
True. There should be a choice in this respect.

Regards,
Miroslav
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